Round 8 Conversations

[henry]

[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:13:06 PM) but in the game mark came to me this morning and told me a lot of heavy stuff, about how this game has caused fights with his wife and has him in some trouble at work, and i was really heartbroken (and already emotional)
Bill V: (6:13:14 PM) Well, as someone who has a bf on another continent right now, I can understand the lonesomeness, tho I'm very sorry to hear he hasn't been checking in
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:13:40 PM) and he told me that he only joined this game because ben pleaded him to, as a friend, so he did, and since the game started ben has pushing him aside once ben's group starting to get an upper hand, and that ben refused to switch the vote to avoid the purple rock. and now mark is gone
Bill V: (6:14:08 PM) I hope Mark gave his idol to someone at least
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:13 PM) he played it on cassie
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:24 PM) to increase their odds in a rock pulling scenario
Bill V: (6:14:27 PM) oh, well thats ok at least he tried
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:29 PM) but they voted aj
Bill V: (6:14:36 PM) 50/50 shot
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:37 PM) so it tied in a revote, so ben and mark were left vulnerable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:39 PM) yep
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:43 PM) ben has been so lucky this game eh
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:09 PM) and it reminded me of what's happened with me and ellen. i initially told justin no to AS because i have a lot on my plate, and i felt i had spent less time with my bf as a result and felt guilty about that, and also i had a summer class on my plate as well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:16 PM) but ellen told me to please play, for her, so i did
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:53 PM) and then by about round 2 or 3 , once she found the idol, she completely started to ignore me and then i found out all tehse things she's been saying about me behind my back and it really hurt. she tried to get mark mad at me a few days ago, mark came to me this morning and just spilled beans
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:16:04 PM) so i had a bit of an altercation with her and asked her to stop speaking to me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:16:46 PM) i know it sounds silly but i think it didnt help i was having such an usually emotional day already
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:17:02 PM) but i knew at that point it was a rock scenario, and it was up to luck which "6" was going to control the game, so i didnt feel i had much to lose
Bill V: (6:17:27 PM) sure
Bill V: (6:27:05 PM) is mark on jury?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:27:11 PM) yes
Bill V: (6:27:26 PM) mmkay, so certainly looking at a F3, then
Bill V: (6:27:46 PM) Anyway, I'm not going to worry about them or the game or any of that crap
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:27:49 PM) i guess his idol will be rehidden
Bill V: (6:44:59 PM) hmmm
Bill V: (6:45:02 PM) well, we'll see

[henry]

Bill V: (6:19:38 PM) Hey Dom
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:19:44 PM) hey hey henry!
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE returned at 6:19 PM.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:20:19 PM) whats up?
Bill V: (6:20:27 PM) nothin much, just got home from the beach
Bill V: (6:20:35 PM) broke my phone while I was there, so I'm pretty cranky about that
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:20:53 PM) ack that sucks but yay beaches
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:23:42 PM) btw accidentally stalked your twitter and saw my tongue comment lmao
Bill V: (6:24:45 PM) lmao, I told you I was reposting that
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:24:58 PM) I was honored <3
Bill V: (6:25:01 PM) what caused u to stalk my twats?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:25:14 PM) Rob followed me so i went to his page and his most recent tweet was to you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:25:23 PM) so i clicked and the tongue comment was like your second tweet down
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:25:27 PM) so I didn't mean to creep you lmao
Bill V: (6:26:10 PM) lmao no worries
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE went idle at 6:32 PM.
Bill V: (6:44:54 PM) what r u doing this afternoon?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE returned at 6:50 PM.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:51:52 PM) about to watch big brother with my family and posting for this challenge
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:51:56 PM) no one else seems to be though
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:51:57 PM) you?
Bill V: (6:53:24 PM) I reallly can't focus on the challenge right now, I'm really not in the right mood
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:53:32 PM) aww what's wrong?
Bill V: (6:53:36 PM) I'm gonna watch BB and Whodunnit and clean my apt
Bill V: (6:53:45 PM) I just didn't have a good day
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:53:45 PM) i'm about to watch both of those <3
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:54:00 PM) everyone seems to be upset about Mark.
Bill V: (6:54:42 PM) Mark's not someone I was close to prior to this game, but in our short time together he seemed like a very good guy
Bill V: (6:54:51 PM) Thaigo gave me the rundown of what happened
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:55:03 PM) What exactly happened?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:55:07 PM) All I heard was that he got rocked out
Bill V: (6:55:18 PM) I'm not here to judge anyone, but it does sound like things have gone pretty unfortunately in this game for a lot of friendships
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:55:33 PM) I don't even understand?
Bill V: (6:55:42 PM) Thiago GVSE: (6:13:40 PM) and he told me that he only joined this game because ben pleaded him to, as a friend, so he did, and since the game started ben has pushing him aside once ben's group starting to get an upper hand, and that ben refused to switch the vote to avoid the purple rock. and now mark is gone
Bill V: (6:56:11 PM) i mean, maybe i'm not supposed to be talking about the situation so candidly, he didn't say either way
Bill V: (6:56:20 PM) so maybe better to let him re-explain it to you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:56:38 PM) Regardless of how he got in All Stars, he was playing the game just like we were.
Bill V: (6:56:41 PM) But Thaigo also said the situation led to a similar fight between he and Ellen
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:56:49 PM) and he had just as much of a chance to change his vote too?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:57:25 PM) Yeah that's the second "i only played cause someone begged me to" story I've heard.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:57:29 PM) Ben/Mark and Ellen/Thiago
Bill V: (6:58:14 PM) its hard
Bill V: (6:58:22 PM) on one hand, i don't want ppl to be sad/upset
Bill V: (6:58:42 PM) but, as someone who didn't talk to ppl pregame, and while I know people I didn't start the game with an alliance of friends
Bill V: (6:58:47 PM) I just can't relate to any of this
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:59:07 PM) Nor did I. I actually think it's a bunch of bullshit and fueling each others fires.
Bill V: (6:59:11 PM) and, its like, I'm sorry your pregames didn't work out…. but those wouldn't of exactly been good for me so I'm not really sad about it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:59:25 PM) We didn't come in as a group, and I don't think you guys did either.
Bill V: (6:59:52 PM) I think if the shoe were on the other foot, Ben and Ellen would have been just as upset
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:59:53 PM) Yet Mark has told me "i didn't know you skyped with these people preparing months before this game"
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (6:59:56 PM) like....wut?
Bill V: (7:00:13 PM) it does hurt my feelings a bit when i hear about ppl skyping/ghanging daily
Bill V: (7:00:18 PM) no offense
Bill V: (7:00:26 PM) but to know i'm not included, its like, awww
Bill V: (7:00:34 PM) but i guess i have my own friends outside of the game, so its ok
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:00:46 PM) That confuses me.
Bill V: (7:01:26 PM) anyway
Bill V: (7:01:28 PM) rant over
Bill V: (7:01:34 PM) we'll see how the comp goes, I guess
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:01:41 PM) No I feel like that's... an interesting statement.
Bill V: (7:01:47 PM) which is?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:02:00 PM) Just about how the sides see each other.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:02:07 PM) I know you guys Google Hangout
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:02:15 PM) Or used to
Bill V: (7:02:25 PM) if by you guys you mean alex and kirin and jordan
Bill V: (7:02:26 PM) then yes
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:02:33 PM) but like... now there's rumors of us skyping 24/7
Bill V: (7:02:42 PM) there isn't rumors of anything
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:02:56 PM) and it's just sounding like we're a bunch of witches cackling around a crystal ball planning everyones demise
Bill V: (7:03:08 PM) i don't think thats what i meant to imply at all
Bill V: (7:03:18 PM) nor did I say anyone was saying to me you skype 24/7
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:03:23 PM) it's just a combination of what you said and what I've heard from other people.
Bill V: (7:03:42 PM) i think youre putting my story in a narrative that i'm not subscribing to
Bill V: (7:03:48 PM) I said ppl told me THEY were skyping
Bill V: (7:03:56 PM) as in, they were currently in a skype with other ppl
Bill V: (7:04:06 PM) not realzing that, idk, maybe i'd wanna be invited to that?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:04:09 PM) the issue is who is THEY
Bill V: (7:04:24 PM) oh, the example that comes to mind is AJ
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:04:28 PM) My problem in this game has been that I'm always associated in the "they"
Bill V: (7:04:34 PM) wrong group
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:04:36 PM) especially after mark bitched me out and called me out
Bill V: (7:04:39 PM) I'm not saying
Bill V: (7:04:44 PM) and i want this to be clear
Bill V: (7:04:49 PM) that ppl are saying YOURE doing that
Bill V: (7:04:53 PM) they're saying THEYRE doing that
Bill V: (7:04:55 PM) to me
Bill V: (7:05:09 PM) I mean, you might be doing that too
Bill V: (7:05:12 PM) idk, i have no idea
Bill V: (7:05:21 PM) no ones said either way to me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:05:31 PM) I've been called out because people think I skype all the time
Bill V: (7:05:47 PM) I don't care about what people do on their free time
Bill V: (7:05:56 PM) I only care about what my odds are to be voted out
Bill V: (7:06:23 PM) I'm just noting how ppl are feeling really down cuz their friends picked other friends over them
Bill V: (7:06:34 PM) and, while I don't like ppl to be sad or down
Bill V: (7:06:43 PM) its not something I can relate to in the context of this game
Bill V: (7:06:46 PM) that's all
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:08:09 PM) I'm not taking anything personally. Apparently someone's trying to get me ejected now though.
Bill V: (7:08:47 PM) for?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:08:59 PM) idk if i'm supposed to talk about it
Bill V: (7:10:31 PM) Well, whatever
Bill V: (7:10:35 PM) unless someone cheated, idc
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:11:14 PM) ew i don't cheat
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:11:34 PM) I just feel like this game is so petty though
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:11:37 PM) and it's honestly not fun
Bill V: (7:11:49 PM) I feel like
Bill V: (7:11:52 PM) and I hate to say it
Bill V: (7:11:55 PM) but it is what you make it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:12:27 PM) is that to assume that I've done something to make this game not fun>
Bill V: (7:14:01 PM) I'm just saying if you focus on the positive
Bill V: (7:14:10 PM) maybe more positive will come back at you
Bill V: (7:14:19 PM) like, I can't change who's cranky in this game on a daily basis
Bill V: (7:14:25 PM) but if I just talk to the ppl who are having fun
Bill V: (7:14:29 PM) I end up having a good day
Bill V: (7:14:47 PM) and I feel like I also know when to just not engage and step away
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:15:41 PM) I have been focusing on the positives? And I'm not being cranky at all. I'm trying to have fun and talk to people so I don't understand your assumptions about how I'm playing this game?
Bill V: (7:17:08 PM) it was just my response to the comment that the game wasn't fun
Bill V: (7:17:25 PM) I have no idea how you're playing the game, we weren't on the same tribe for 6 rounds
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:17:37 PM) You're playing with your words.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:17:56 PM) Trying to dance around things without straight-up calling me out? I don't get it
Bill V: (7:18:17 PM) I'm not trying to call you out, I just don't wanna see ppl have a bad time
Bill V: (7:19:33 PM) I'm sorry if it sounded like that
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:19:34 PM) Just be honest with me. You don't have to be coy
Bill V: (7:19:44 PM) i get this a lot, that i come across coy
Bill V: (7:19:50 PM) i think its the social worker in me
Bill V: (7:20:01 PM) so, i'm sorry about that
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:20:40 PM) It's honestly just kinda upsetting.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:20:52 PM) Because i'm just playing a game and I feel like I'm being portrayed as this drama-starting monster.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:21:03 PM) And you're basically confirming that that's how your "side" sees me.
Bill V: (7:21:15 PM) i don't like that you put me on a side
Bill V: (7:21:24 PM) i have independent thoughts
Bill V: (7:21:35 PM) and i don't see you in any light
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:21:37 PM) I don't put you on a side! You're the one that said sides earlier
Bill V: (7:21:40 PM) again, i think you maybe have those fears
Bill V: (7:21:45 PM) and so youre taking what i'm saying
Bill V: (7:21:51 PM) and fitting it into your narrative
Bill V: (7:22:03 PM) everything i said was very neutral
Bill V: (7:22:15 PM) i have no opinion whatsoever about your game, and i like you overall
Bill V: (7:22:21 PM) so i'm not really sure how to respond
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:22:32 PM) I just want honesty.
Bill V: (7:22:36 PM) would it be easier to talk about this on skype?
Bill V: (7:22:44 PM) because i'm now concerned you think i'm trying to call you out on something
Bill V: (7:22:55 PM) when I messaged you to vent about Thaigo/Ellen/Ben/Mark
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:23:09 PM) That just seems to be the general mood today. And then being called out by Mark the other day.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:23:22 PM) It's just so cutthroat and I guess when I started to think you were coming at me too, I just got defensive.
Bill V: (7:23:26 PM) well, i prolly shouldn't of chosen this time to talk to you about it
Bill V: (7:23:29 PM) since mark yelled at you
Bill V: (7:23:39 PM) and youre having these problems with otehr ppl
Bill V: (7:23:44 PM) so, i'm sorry
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:25:07 PM) There's no way you could've known that though
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (7:25:43 PM) and this game is a mess.
Bill V: (7:26:35 PM) well, i hope things improve from here on out
Bill V: (9:36:18 PM) back
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:36:32 PM) welcome back!
Bill V: (9:37:35 PM) ty
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:44:44 PM) enjoy the shows?
Bill V: (9:44:50 PM) yes!
Bill V: (9:44:59 PM) I'm sad about the results of both shows, but they were good episodes, imo
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:45:11 PM) yeah i loved that the foursome was all spared! lmao
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:45:28 PM) that was phenomenal cause i love Kam, Ulysses, and Kris
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:45:32 PM) or Cris
Bill V: (9:45:32 PM) lmao, its clear to me that Don was just bad at taking the tests
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:45:34 PM) idk
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:45:37 PM) Don sucked
Bill V: (9:45:39 PM) I HATE Cam and Ulysses
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:45:59 PM) lmao Kam is worse than Ulysses. I'll give you that
Bill V: (9:46:03 PM) I loved Don and I love Dana and I like the flight attendant
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:46:05 PM) but they're there to play the game
Bill V: (9:46:09 PM) and I like Lindsay
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:46:10 PM)
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:46:17 PM) I hate the flight attendant
Bill V: (9:46:19 PM) Cris is ok
Bill V: (9:46:28 PM) I just hate how cocky Kam and Ulysses are
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:46:33 PM) My strategy is.... IM GOING TO FOLLOW THIS GUY
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:46:37 PM) It's like... wut
Bill V: (9:46:39 PM) I like the black girl as well
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:46:43 PM) she's sassy
Bill V: (9:46:55 PM) I thought Dom was the killer
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:47:03 PM) DOM?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:47:04 PM)
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:47:05 PM)
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:47:05 PM)
Bill V: (9:47:08 PM) Don*
Bill V: (9:47:09 PM) LOL
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:47:12 PM) Freudian slip, eh?
Bill V: (9:47:14 PM)
Bill V: (9:47:16 PM) well, my first guess is that the butler did it
Bill V: (9:47:23 PM) but if its a player, I thought it was Don
Bill V: (9:47:32 PM) second guess is Sabrina
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:47:59 PM) yeah i thought it was the butler *shrugs*
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:48:11 PM) I loved Adriana. Was upset to see her die cause she was such a devious character
Bill V: (9:49:35 PM) I know, I loved her awkwardly being shut out from all convos
Bill V: (9:49:38 PM) but I also like Dana
Bill V: (9:49:44 PM) and how much she hates Ulysses now
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:49:45 PM) and everyone thought she was the killer lmao
Bill V: (9:49:52 PM) I want some of the MOR players to go
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:04 PM) yeahhhhhhhhhhh same MOR morons.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:08 PM) just following blindly
Bill V: (9:50:08 PM) I don't care for Gino or the hispanic guy
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:09 PM) and guessing
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:15 PM) you racist pig
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:17 PM) AARYN
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:17 PM) god
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:19 PM) jk <3
Bill V: (9:50:31 PM) lmfao whatever
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:50:31 PM) I agree.
Bill V: (9:50:52 PM) like, Kam and Uly are cocky, but they honestly have a good strategy, i just wanna see them fail
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:51:01 PM) I want it to be down to Dana, Ulysses, Cris, Lindsey, Kam, the black girl, and the douchey guy that kept the attic info to himself
Bill V: (9:51:03 PM) the other guys, they have a bad strategy and they're just as cocky
Bill V: (9:52:49 PM) so, i wanted to have a word with you, quickly
Bill V: (9:52:59 PM) but, idk how youre feeling
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:52:59 PM) by all means
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:53:04 PM) I'm feeling okay
Bill V: (9:53:05 PM) I ate, so I'm feeling a lot less stressed
Bill V: (9:53:12 PM) that's something I needed, I think
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:53:20 PM) mmmm food <3
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:54:37 PM) so what's up?
Bill V: (9:54:45 PM) and I would like the convo to stay private, if thats possible
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:54:51 PM) you have my word
Bill V: (9:54:55 PM) not take it back to anyone on either "side"
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:55:02 PM) would you like to skype to ensure that?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:55:07 PM) whatever makes you feel more comfortable
Bill V: (9:55:12 PM) naw
Bill V: (9:55:25 PM) its super hot in here, i don't wanna get dressed for a skype call
Bill V: (9:55:30 PM) lol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:55:38 PM) haha you can skype without doing webcam
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:55:40 PM)
Bill V: (9:55:48 PM) we'll chat for now
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:55:53 PM) haha okay!
Bill V: (9:55:55 PM) anyway
Bill V: (9:56:02 PM) With Mark leaving
Bill V: (9:56:18 PM) it causes each "Side" love it or hate it they exist atm
Bill V: (9:56:28 PM) to make a choice about this comp
Bill V: (9:56:44 PM) Thaigo, after his fallout with Ellen, is suggesting to Knox and I to throw the comp
Bill V: (9:57:01 PM) and I wouldn't be shocked whatsoever to know that Ellen/Ben/Colleen are planning the same
Bill V: (9:57:19 PM) but I feel so much confliction about the situation
Bill V: (9:57:33 PM) and, as the person on the other "side" who i'm most comfortable talking to
Bill V: (9:57:45 PM) I wanna have an open dialogue about it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:58:00 PM) well I've been posting all day so that's a little frustrating to hear tbh...
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:58:11 PM) What good would going to Judgement do?
Bill V: (9:58:43 PM) well, I mean since Mark went home, if you do the math of the established "sides", again i'm not saying i agree with them but that's just what it is
Bill V: (9:58:51 PM) AJ's "side" only has 5 now
Bill V: (9:59:02 PM) and if they lost again, AJ or Cassie would go home
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:59:06 PM) so they basically wanna send it to rocks again
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:59:08 PM) and try their luck over here.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:59:10 PM) wow.
Bill V: (9:59:11 PM) right
Bill V: (9:59:20 PM) to try and send out you/luca/selena
Bill V: (9:59:29 PM) with more rocks, so if theres a merge at 10 its 5-5
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (9:59:54 PM) how shady tbh.
Bill V: (9:59:58 PM) again, like I said I want this convo to remain private
Bill V: (10:00:12 PM) you know ppl can't keep their mouth shut in this game, haha, so don't go saying I said this to you
Bill V: (10:00:17 PM) but, I mean, you kinda get it, right
Bill V: (10:00:25 PM) As someone who's been in an alliance that threw a comp
Bill V: (10:00:27 PM) even if you didn't
Bill V: (10:00:32 PM) some ppl totally did
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:00:43 PM) Yeah I understand completely and I actually figured something like this would happen
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:00:49 PM) Knox is pretending to not know where the flags are
Bill V: (10:00:56 PM) has Ellen/Ben/Colleen talked to you about throwing the comp?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:00:56 PM) and Thiago tossed me an excuse about not being around much.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:01:02 PM) Nope not at all
Bill V: (10:01:07 PM) Knox doesn't know, like me, what he wants to do right now either
Bill V: (10:01:23 PM) so Knox is just stalling
Bill V: (10:01:42 PM) so, I mean, let me talk out how I see it
Bill V: (10:01:58 PM) firstly, the immeadiate danger of course is that I'd get purple rocked out of the game
Bill V: (10:02:14 PM) but if I survive that
Bill V: (10:02:24 PM) then it just means things are 5-5
Bill V: (10:02:36 PM) and if you go I really have no "in" with Luca or Selena
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:02:41 PM) and then it's just purple rock after purple rock after purple rock.
Bill V: (10:02:56 PM) which means I'd have to commit to AJ/Knox/Cassie
Bill V: (10:03:03 PM) which I'm in the minority of that alliance, too
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:03:25 PM) Not unless we worked something out tbh
Bill V: (10:04:05 PM) yeah, i mean at this point i'm not coming to you asking for a deal
Bill V: (10:04:16 PM) because that'd be unfair, despite how i do enjoy you
Bill V: (10:04:25 PM) and obv it'd be hard to trust, even if I felt good about us
Bill V: (10:04:31 PM) that's not what I'm looking to do
Bill V: (10:04:46 PM) I guess, really, I just need more help understanding the dynamics of your "team"
Bill V: (10:05:00 PM) and again, I'm not someone who's a consipracy guy saying youre all 100% all 6 of you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:05:55 PM) I just hate the dynamics of this game
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:06:04 PM) everyone wants it to change but no one is willing to make a move
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:06:16 PM) who does thiago want to send to purple rock if we lose?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:06:23 PM) cause obviously whoever they vote for are safe.
Bill V: (10:07:55 PM) hmm i'm not sure, I don't think it's been discussed
Bill V: (10:08:24 PM) The only thing that's been talked about is that you guys would maybe vote for Knox
Bill V: (10:08:42 PM) Because he'd be least likely to have the idol, and Thaigo most likely to flip
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:08:48 PM) we haven't even thought about discussing it because i thought i was finally on a tribe that wanted to win.
Bill V: (10:09:19 PM) Well, I mean I want to win for sure, I thik the only thing I contributed last time was trying to keep it a team mentality
Bill V: (10:09:24 PM) instead of ppl trying for indiv immunity
Bill V: (10:09:37 PM) but I don't wanna come in 10th
Bill V: (10:09:54 PM) so, i mean, what do you think of my previous question
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:10:19 PM) where was the question in that? sorry im just astounded by that. i thought it as a possibility but i didn't think it'd actually happen lol
Bill V: (10:10:19 PM) what's the "team Ellen" mentality, is it individual or team
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:10:28 PM) well
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:10:47 PM) "Team Ellen" has formed because it had to be. Because we were told "Team AJ" was a thing pre-game.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:10:56 PM) and if AJ tries to say otherwise, she's honestly lying.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:11:04 PM) keep this between us please, Henry.
Bill V: (10:11:28 PM) of course
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:11:34 PM) There were several phonecalls to myself and other members of the cast pre-game where Kirin was basically trying to raise an army against Ellen.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:12:38 PM) She was saying anything from "she's #1 in the rankings" to "remember what she did to you in season 3" to "she's befriends people and then votes them out"
Bill V: (10:12:49 PM) mmhm
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:12:52 PM) it went beyond the game for me and she was basically saying she already had a lot of numbers on her side. You included.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:13:01 PM) because of isurv1vor or something like that.
Bill V: (10:13:40 PM) well i think she's counted on me because I was in iSurvivor and I'm not friends with the Season 2 people. I think my actual inclusion in "Team AJ" was mostly survival based due to being on Legatu
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:13:48 PM) and then when I came into the game, Chase basically jumped on and reaffirmed all the "AJ's Army" thoughts. He even sent me a picture of "AJ vs Ellen in a Good vs Evil" fashion with Ellen photoshopped as the devil.
Bill V: (10:13:56 PM) but I did hear she was counting on you, and Chase, and Mark
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:14:13 PM) So if anyone drew the lines for the sides, it was Chase/AJ. But now they seem to be saying that WE were the ones that started it?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:14:25 PM) like NO. that doesn't really fly well with me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:14:57 PM) No one is "villainizing" anyone. She tried to make a pre-game against someone she didn't like because of personal beef that included some triangle argument between Cassie-Ellen-AJ
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:15:01 PM) and it basically divided the game
Bill V: (10:15:25 PM) sure, well I mean as always with survivor things have to be split into groups somehow, and this was just the conflict that did it this time
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:15:25 PM) apparently AJ was complaining about Ellen to Cassie and Cassie sent the whole convo to Ellen, so Ellen complained back and Cassie went back to AJ blah blah blah
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:15:47 PM) I heard this story from both AJ and Ellen so I have both sides. So it's not like I'm only hearing half the story and running with it.
Bill V: (10:16:05 PM) and I don't see either side as the villain, I'm sure both sides made it worse with various things they did
Bill V: (10:16:20 PM) but yeah, go on
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:16:37 PM) It's just a hot mess. And then I had Chase telling me every round that no matter what I did, I wasn't gonna convince people I wasn't with Ellen
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:16:44 PM) he said he was trying really hard to convince you guys
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:16:49 PM) but that no one was going for it.
Bill V: (10:17:29 PM) well, I mean
Bill V: (10:17:32 PM) voting him out didn't help
Bill V: (10:17:33 PM) haha
Bill V: (10:17:37 PM) but i understand why you did it
Bill V: (10:17:43 PM) if you felt like ppl already put you in that group
Bill V: (10:17:47 PM) you better work with that group
Bill V: (10:17:59 PM) just like me, if ppl are gonna put me with AJ
Bill V: (10:18:04 PM) then I guess that's who I gotta work with
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:18:13 PM) OMG *hugs* someone can actually stay non-biased and see my point
Bill V: (10:18:41 PM) and I mean obv Chase kinda tried to take that trust and run with it, but it wasn't really a good time yet for you cuz you saw the AJ army as still too big
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:18:53 PM) it was 14 vs 7
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:18:57 PM) of course it wasn't a good time.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:19:14 PM) and i didn't come into this game intending to be stuck on the same boat as Ellen
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:19:22 PM) the only pre-game plan I had was to take out annie lol
Bill V: (10:19:42 PM) Yeah, I can honestly say I had no pre-game plans
Bill V: (10:19:50 PM) I mean ppl said to me Yay we're in all stars!
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:19:59 PM) by pre-game plans, I meant personal ones
Bill V: (10:20:03 PM) but, like, for example I didn't even know who you were
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:20:12 PM) I didn't like spread the word to people to "OMG HELP ME GET ANNIE OUT"
Bill V: (10:20:17 PM) so I didn't intend to be with AJ or anyone
Bill V: (10:20:27 PM) The first F2 i actually made in the game was with Chase
Bill V: (10:20:36 PM) and we didn't know each other before hand
Bill V: (10:20:40 PM) we just got along on Legatu
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:21:30 PM) i see i see
Bill V: (10:22:00 PM) but now I know how many pots Chase had a hand in
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:22:07 PM) Everyone's -__-
Bill V: (10:22:20 PM) pot whore
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:22:27 PM) sounds delicious...
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:22:28 PM) i mean
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:22:28 PM) wut
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:22:29 PM)
Bill V: (10:22:32 PM) lol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:22:47 PM) so are you guys for sure throwing? because I've been working really hard at this and it's just upsetting
Bill V: (10:24:10 PM) well, I mean I think that's what we gotta hammer out
Bill V: (10:24:25 PM) if we win, am I coming in 10th?
Bill V: (10:24:55 PM) if we merge "Team AJ" would be just AJ/Knox/Thaigo/Myself
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:25:03 PM) Henry, I like you. I wouldn't mind working with you.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:25:07 PM) I hinted at it earlier and you shot me down
Bill V: (10:25:17 PM) no, i'm def for that
Bill V: (10:25:29 PM) i'm just concerned about what the rest of "team ellen" is going to want
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:25:39 PM) I know trust is running thin in this game, especially with me. But if people truly want to end this. Then there needs to be other deals.
Bill V: (10:26:59 PM) Right
Bill V: (10:27:26 PM) or i mean the F6 is just gonna be "Team Ellen"
Bill V: (10:27:32 PM) and idk how u feel about those odds
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:35 PM) Uhm
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:38 PM) did you watch season 3?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:38 PM) jw
Bill V: (10:27:42 PM) hardly
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:43 PM) Summary:
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:51 PM) I fought hard all season for my Final 6 alliance
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:53 PM) and when i got there
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:27:55 PM) i got 6th place.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:28:15 PM) I refuse to play for 6th again. Just because I rode this to jury doesn't mean this is in my end-game plans.
Bill V: (10:28:42 PM) i'm really in that same boat
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:29:09 PM) because in my alliance, Ben/Colleen are unbreakable and theyre friends with Luca
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:29:14 PM) and Ellen will go with Colleen again probably
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:29:20 PM) so Selena/I will be 5th and 6th
Bill V: (10:29:30 PM) And I have AJ/Cassie/Knox over here as a 3some
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:31:50 PM) yeah not exactly ideal for a f3 scenario
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:32:01 PM) going to f4 with a trio is never a good idea lol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:32:07 PM) same way going to final 6 with a final 4 is bad
Bill V: (10:32:41 PM) mhm
Bill V: (10:35:17 PM) so, like, it looks like the leap of faith is all thats left
Bill V: (10:35:26 PM) again, I would really like to not be another Chase
Bill V: (10:35:37 PM) but it seems I either have to take my chances with you or with the rock
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:36:00 PM) What can I do to show you that you won't be?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:36:03 PM) I'm prettier than the rock
Bill V: (10:36:26 PM) tho you WERE on the purple tribe
Bill V: (10:36:27 PM) hmmmm
Bill V: (10:36:28 PM) lol
Bill V: (10:37:12 PM) well, I mean, it can't just be us. I can't be your tack on to the Ellen alliance because they outnumber me and you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:38:21 PM)
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:38:41 PM) I understand that so what would you like to do?
Bill V: (10:38:53 PM) I'm not sure
Bill V: (10:39:15 PM) I'm not sure if trying to start a new alliance at the F11 is smart or too risky
Bill V: (10:39:40 PM) should the goal atm to be get a solid group or just find a way to continue to survive
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:40:57 PM) oh I'll tell you right now, it's a risky move. but it also has a better payout than just surviving
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:47:10 PM) Knox's post makes it seem like your mind is made up
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:47:23 PM) or he may just be trying to be helpful idk.
Bill V: (10:47:25 PM) what post? he and I have discussed nothing
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:47:42 PM) He said "hey guys lets post the links to where we hid all our flags here so we can send it in one PM"
Bill V: (10:48:47 PM) oh
Bill V: (10:48:57 PM) don't we have to post 5 flags per person?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:49:03 PM) yeah
Bill V: (10:49:11 PM) If you were wondering if he posted that so we could throw it
Bill V: (10:49:13 PM) I don't htink so
Bill V: (10:49:41 PM) i think he sees it as a lose-lose
Bill V: (10:49:53 PM) so theres been no mention of a throw to me
Bill V: (10:50:00 PM) with him making that post
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:50:14 PM) It just looks shady cause it would be really easy to just pass our links on to Cassie/AJ
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:50:15 PM) ya know?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:50:31 PM) cause then they could pick the order to find our flags to give one of you guys Individual Immunity
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:50:36 PM) or maybe it's just my paranoia
Bill V: (10:50:46 PM) I can promise you I had no idea that thread was even made
Bill V: (10:50:55 PM) and it wasn't a plot
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:51:15 PM) i appreciate the honesty i'm just nervous now cause i've worked so hard
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:51:19 PM) and getting 11th would suck.
Bill V: (10:51:39 PM) mmhm
Bill V: (10:55:04 PM) i mean
Bill V: (10:55:07 PM) idc if you ignore it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:57:54 PM) I'm probably going to
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:58:01 PM) I just dont wanna stay up all night posting if you guys are gonna throw
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:58:07 PM) and just send our links to the other side anyway
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:58:08 PM) ya know?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (10:58:15 PM) like... i'm taking time out of my life to do this
Bill V: (11:00:36 PM) I understand
Bill V: (11:00:50 PM) honestly I guess now that I look at it that way
Bill V: (11:01:03 PM) you could just give my info to Ellen
Bill V: (11:01:08 PM) so its prolly a bad idea
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:02:13 PM) I'm not going to give your info to anyone -__-
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:02:15 PM) I want to win this
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:02:24 PM) hence why i'm still posting waiting for you guys to decide ;|
Bill V: (11:09:12 PM) even if I say I'm going to work on it you'll be paranoid until you see the results, its ok
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:09:22 PM) what?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:09:48 PM) Everyone's going to be paranoid. But that doesn't mean I don't trust you?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:09:54 PM) I thought that's why we were having this conversation
Bill V: (11:12:34 PM) right
Bill V: (11:12:41 PM) i trust that

[henry]

Ben GVSE: (5:01:55 PM) hiii benryyy
Bill V: (5:02:10 PM) whats up?
Ben GVSE: (5:02:24 PM) not toooo much how about you
Ben GVSE: (5:02:30 PM) finally have a day offf
Bill V: (5:02:40 PM) i'm doing well
Bill V: (5:02:42 PM) very very busy day
Ben GVSE: (5:03:58 PM) awww
Ben GVSE: (5:04:01 PM) work work work?
Bill V: (5:06:05 PM) lot of errands
Bill V: (5:06:11 PM) and things i just needed to do
Ben GVSE: (5:06:26 PM) oooh
Ben GVSE: (5:06:28 PM) im sorry
Ben GVSE: (5:06:38 PM) hope u can get it doneee
Bill V: (5:06:46 PM) thanks! I'm getting there
Bill V: (5:06:50 PM) the challenge is the biggest pain
Bill V: (5:06:51 PM) lol
Ben GVSE: (5:06:57 PM) i know it's so annoyinggg lol
Bill V: (5:10:10 PM) whats up with you today?
Bill V: (5:10:19 PM) I can chat if something was on your mind
Ben GVSE: (5:19:31 PM) Not too much really, just posting. it's so tiring
Ben GVSE: (5:19:41 PM) This whole game is tiring really, it's really stressful
Bill V: (5:21:42 PM) I heard you and Mark had a pretty big fallout
Ben GVSE: (5:23:34 PM) I guess so. I dont really understand why though. I didnt want him to go
Bill V: (5:23:56 PM) Right, it just wasn't possible for you to do something different
Bill V: (5:24:11 PM) I mean, I'm hearing this story prolly, like, 4th hand
Bill V: (5:24:18 PM) he just sounded disappointed
Ben GVSE: (5:24:26 PM) haha 4th hand
Ben GVSE: (5:24:36 PM) he literally told me i am a disgusting human being and that i'm dead to him.
Ben GVSE: (5:25:30 PM) so idk what i did to deserve that. i care for him
Ben GVSE: (5:26:05 PM) i just don't know what he wanted me to do in that situation. :\
Bill V: (5:26:38 PM) That really doesn't sound like Mark to me
Bill V: (5:26:42 PM) from what I know of him
Bill V: (5:26:51 PM) but it sounds like he had a lot of things going on
Bill V: (5:27:05 PM) So, looks like all you can do is keep on keepin on
Ben GVSE: (5:30:57 PM) 11:45:32 AM Mark Jeffcoat: You are a visiting human being
Ben GVSE: (5:31:09 PM) 12:17:22 PM Mark Jeffcoat: Disgusting...auto correct
12:18:42 PM cataclysmiccornucopia: oh im a disgusting human being cool thanks!
Ben GVSE: (5:31:19 PM) 12:20:24 PM Mark Jeffcoat: Disgusting
12:20:38 PM Mark Jeffcoat: You are dead to me
Changed status to Offline (12:20:44 PM)
12:20:54 PM cataclysmiccornucopia: o ok

Bill V: (5:31:28 PM) lol mark jeffcoat?
Ben GVSE: (5:31:31 PM) haha yes
Ben GVSE: (5:31:36 PM) my aim is weird
Ben GVSE: (5:31:40 PM) u come up as Bill V ?
Bill V: (5:31:48 PM) ah, yeah, sorry i was too lazy to make a new aim
Ben GVSE: (5:31:52 PM) hahaha
Ben GVSE: (5:32:37 PM) apparently i forced him to play this game then i forced him to draw a purple rock i dont get it
Bill V: (5:33:36 PM) hmm
Bill V: (5:33:45 PM) well, i didn't talk to anyone pregame so i guess i just don't get it
Ben GVSE: (5:33:56 PM) lol i mean Mark and i just got out of last season together
Ben GVSE: (5:34:15 PM) so of course i wanted to play with him
Ben GVSE: (5:34:27 PM) but i didnt force him to play
Ben GVSE: (5:34:50 PM) and in the revote im sorry but im not gonna vote colleen out i told him he could do what he wanted and i am not mad, so idk why he is
Ben GVSE: (5:35:06 PM) but i wasnt gonna vote mark or colleen
Bill V: (5:35:46 PM) mhm
Bill V: (5:36:10 PM) well, i'm sure he won't be the last person to leave the game upset at someone
Ben GVSE: (5:36:20 PM) yeahh
Ben GVSE: (5:36:44 PM) im just annoyed because i dont understand i guess. if i pulled the purple rock i wouldnt be mad at him.
Bill V: (5:37:37 PM) well, if he felt like he was playing for you
Bill V: (5:37:45 PM) that's prolly why it hurt more
Bill V: (5:37:48 PM) different circumstances
Bill V: (5:37:56 PM) and of course you have your own attitudes about the game
Ben GVSE: (5:38:07 PM) lol i guess
Ben GVSE: (5:38:15 PM) i just dont understand if he felt he was playing for me
Ben GVSE: (5:38:20 PM) why would he go to rocks
Bill V: (5:38:36 PM) well, i think both "sides" see how the numbers are
Ben GVSE: (5:38:59 PM) lol exactly, which is why i know he wasn't playing for me.
Bill V: (5:39:17 PM) it sounded like both sides, he and you, felt seperation from each other early
Bill V: (5:39:33 PM) and so he was playing his own game, i think, by the time he came ot Legatu
Bill V: (5:40:03 PM) but i'm sure he's just upset and its easy to put it on you because you have a relationship with him that, to whatever degree, was used to help both of you at different points
Bill V: (5:40:15 PM) and yet things didn't work out and you were a part of it, even indirectly so
Ben GVSE: (5:40:36 PM) i didnt really use his relationship
Ben GVSE: (5:40:40 PM) o.O
Bill V: (5:40:45 PM) i have no idea
Ben GVSE: (5:40:51 PM) i had him ranked above most people "on my side"
Bill V: (5:40:53 PM) who did what
Ben GVSE: (5:41:03 PM) i had colleen ranked above him which is why i wasnt voting her out in the revote
Ben GVSE: (5:41:07 PM) he just doesnt believe me
Bill V: (5:41:26 PM) well, maybe he thought he was closer to you prior to the game than you two really were? idk
Bill V: (5:41:35 PM) idk, honestly its none of my business
Ben GVSE: (5:41:38 PM) it's not like we ever had a F2 lol
Bill V: (5:42:47 PM) mhm
Ben GVSE: (5:46:54 PM) idk ik hes hurt because i didn't tell him ~everything~ but i know he didn't tell me everything either. the only difference is i'm not blaming him or vilifying him. it's just a game and just because i didn't tell him everything doesn't mean i wasn't looking out for him
Ben GVSE: (5:46:56 PM) sorry
Ben GVSE: (5:47:02 PM) im just blah
Bill V: (5:47:53 PM) well, clearly you aren't happy with him now
Bill V: (5:47:56 PM) oh, its totally ok
Bill V: (5:48:09 PM) i apologize i don't have more to give back, like i said i only faintly heard about it
Ben GVSE: (5:48:11 PM) well im not happy with him because he told me im a disgusting human being and i'm dead to him lol
Ben GVSE: (5:48:13 PM) it's okay
Ben GVSE: (5:48:16 PM)
Bill V: (6:06:27 PM) ok, i got lots to do this afternoon, if its ok i'll be back later

[henry]

Bill V: (11:07:21 PM) ok i'm back
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:07:25 PM) welcome back
Bill V: (11:07:35 PM) ty
Bill V: (11:07:58 PM) i think you should vote for me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:08:09 PM) That's what I wanted to talk to you about
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:08:12 PM) it's probably going to rocks
Bill V: (11:08:16 PM) mhm
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:08:16 PM) so I'd want you safe
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:08:32 PM) are you sure thiago or knox won't pussy out? cause I don't wanna see you go
Bill V: (11:08:42 PM) Thaigo i wondered about
Bill V: (11:08:46 PM) but then he fought with ellen
Bill V: (11:11:56 PM) i mean
Bill V: (11:11:59 PM) what else can we do
Bill V: (11:13:03 PM) too bad we couldn't win immunity
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:13:13 PM) agreed
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:13:20 PM) but you people think im shady regardless of all my posts
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:13:23 PM) so it's not even worth talking about
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:13:36 PM) i sit there searching for flags for an hour and then the first thing i get asked is "did you throw"
Bill V: (11:14:22 PM) i ddin't look at the comp tonight
Bill V: (11:14:28 PM) so, i need to see what happened
Bill V: (11:14:40 PM) before i say anything
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:20:32 PM) well it just got tricky
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:20:35 PM) cause they dont wanna vote for you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:20:36 PM) so sigh
Bill V: (11:21:01 PM) i think you should vote for me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:21:52 PM) it's not up to me though? it's 2-1 lol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:24:44 PM) question and can you answer honestly?
Bill V: (11:25:40 PM) sure
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:25:58 PM) I wanna know if you guys have the idol
Bill V: (11:26:27 PM) well, i mean, no matter if I said yes or no
Bill V: (11:26:32 PM) you'd question it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:26:43 PM) I wouldn't if you told me with complete honesty.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:26:54 PM) You scratch my back, I scratch yours.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:27:03 PM) You tell me if you guys have the idol, I can grant you purple rock immunity.
Bill V: (11:27:24 PM) but if one of us has it
Bill V: (11:27:28 PM) then you might not vote for me
Bill V: (11:27:38 PM) because you'd be worried i'd play it on me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:27:46 PM) you're dancing around the question
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:27:49 PM) so i guess i have my answer.
Bill V: (11:29:54 PM) no no no
Bill V: (11:29:55 PM) wait
Bill V: (11:29:59 PM) i don't wanna get fucked
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:30:12 PM) what?
Bill V: (11:30:50 PM) i don't wanna have to draw a rock
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:30:59 PM) then why arent you being honest with me?
Bill V: (11:31:10 PM) well i mean i could say what i have
Bill V: (11:31:20 PM) but my fear is just that you'd use it against me instead of to help me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:31:36 PM) so you have the idol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:31:38 PM) right?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:31:41 PM) I won't tell anyone
Bill V: (11:32:11 PM) i mean
Bill V: (11:32:23 PM) yes, but i'm REALLY trusting you on this one
Bill V: (11:32:27 PM) and the other day
Bill V: (11:32:34 PM) when I was drugged up on the sleeping pills
Bill V: (11:32:38 PM) i almost said that
Bill V: (11:32:42 PM) but, like
Bill V: (11:32:50 PM) i'd rather not have to play it
Bill V: (11:32:52 PM) right now
Bill V: (11:33:03 PM) just to do a 1 in 3 shot in staying
Bill V: (11:33:18 PM) and/or not playing it and having to draw a rock
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:33:26 PM) what was the answer to the idol clues?
Bill V: (11:33:41 PM) they're just riddles
Bill V: (11:34:00 PM) i know everyone tried to riddle it out
Bill V: (11:34:54 PM) they're all conondrums
Bill V: (11:34:57 PM) fml i can't spell
Bill V: (11:35:01 PM) but its that
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:35:51 PM) That's exactly what I guessed and he said wrong.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:35:57 PM) It would've said "this idol has been found"
Bill V: (11:36:39 PM) ugh
Bill V: (11:36:40 PM) ok
Bill V: (11:36:42 PM) fuck this
Bill V: (11:36:44 PM) i just can't
Bill V: (11:36:52 PM) ok, can we have a real talk moment
Bill V: (11:37:04 PM) its just too hard for me to do this right now
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:38:09 PM) You just LIED to me for NO REASON
Bill V: (11:38:33 PM) i'm stuck in such a bad spot
Bill V: (11:38:36 PM) you don't understand
Bill V: (11:38:46 PM) i.imgur.com/3E6OVIE.png
Bill V: (11:39:01 PM) that's a fake idol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:39:27 PM) i don't understand what you're trying to do
Bill V: (11:39:34 PM) Knox made that idol
Bill V: (11:39:41 PM) and I was supposed to tell you last round that I had it
Bill V: (11:39:45 PM) when he had immunity
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:39:46 PM) and you were sent to show it to me?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:39:47 PM) wow.
Bill V: (11:40:05 PM) as a way to convince you to not vote against any of us
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:40:14 PM) oh a scare tactic. cute.
Bill V: (11:40:15 PM) and so i was supposed to do that the night i was sleepy
Bill V: (11:40:19 PM) but… i was sleepy
Bill V: (11:40:20 PM) lmao
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:40:31 PM) I honestly didn't' see this coming from you
Bill V: (11:40:34 PM) well
Bill V: (11:40:35 PM) hey
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:40:36 PM) I thought we were friends.
Bill V: (11:40:38 PM) before you get upset
Bill V: (11:40:44 PM) i understood where you were coming from
Bill V: (11:40:52 PM) that ppl thought you were with Ellen
Bill V: (11:40:55 PM) so you went with Ellen
Bill V: (11:41:00 PM) I'm where I'm at
Bill V: (11:41:04 PM) so if I don't do what I'm told
Bill V: (11:41:09 PM) then maybe i'm going home
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:42:00 PM) I just.... don't even know what to say right now.
Bill V: (11:42:19 PM) well, hey now
Bill V: (11:42:32 PM) if you thought i was totally invested in tricking you
Bill V: (11:42:42 PM) a) I woulda tried harder, wouldn't of I
Bill V: (11:42:52 PM) and b) I wouldn't say this to you at this point
Bill V: (11:43:01 PM) I just don't wanna go home.
Bill V: (11:43:18 PM) because I feel like I at least made strides with you this round
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:44:16 PM) I gave you my feeds, man.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:44:21 PM) This is just
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:44:22 PM) wow.
Bill V: (11:44:27 PM) hey now
Bill V: (11:44:35 PM) i literally just told you the truth
Bill V: (11:44:46 PM) and kinda half-assed what i was supposed to do
Bill V: (11:45:02 PM) i was open minded with you
Bill V: (11:45:10 PM) consider the spot i'm in
Bill V: (11:45:18 PM) its not a good one
Bill V: (11:45:22 PM) i'm in a really bad spot
Bill V: (11:45:45 PM) i either have to lie to you and just hope the purple rock goes ok
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:46:05 PM) I just don't know if this is the truth or not now.
Bill V: (11:46:16 PM) why would i say this if it wasn't
Bill V: (11:46:25 PM) you could try to use this to sink me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:46:28 PM) I took your word as gold.
Bill V: (11:46:29 PM) if you wanted
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:46:36 PM) Like I seriously just need a minute
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:46:38 PM) cause this just blew my mind
Bill V: (11:46:41 PM) but if I can't trust you i'm gonna lose anyway
Bill V: (11:46:53 PM) you can have a minute, but i'm gonna talk to selena about it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:46:56 PM) all those talks we had where we were saying we were honest with each other?
Bill V: (11:47:49 PM) i was honest with you
Bill V: (11:48:07 PM) other than the idol thing, which was my attmept to give you a reason to get you to get them to vote for me
Bill V: (11:48:11 PM) i haven't been lying
Bill V: (11:48:18 PM) i just wanna get immunity from the rock
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:50:23 PM) You didn't LIE to me, but you didn't tell the truth either.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:50:35 PM) I told you a lot, most of which probably got reported...am i right?
Bill V: (11:51:26 PM) actually, no
Bill V: (11:51:45 PM) i mean, u haven't heard any of it come back to you, right
Bill V: (11:51:51 PM) with these blabbermouths, it would have
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:53:10 PM) Are you all in Ghang right now?
Bill V: (11:54:02 PM) yeah. i was honest earlier. i was in a ghang with my other friends, but i joined the one with cassie and knox and aj, idk, about the same time i started talking to you
Bill V: (11:54:12 PM) but i've mostly ignored them since i've been talking to you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:54:33 PM) I see
Bill V: (11:55:11 PM) i'd join any skype or ghang i was invited to
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:56:06 PM) You guys do this regularly, I've been informed. So it's not like the charade has to continue
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:56:40 PM) I don't even know what to make of this right now.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:56:44 PM) Idk if you're being honest or not now
Bill V: (11:56:50 PM) but i don't
Bill V: (11:57:11 PM) this is my first ghang ever with Cassie
Bill V: (11:57:21 PM) Kirin i only ever ghanged with the day Chase found the idol
Bill V: (11:57:32 PM) Knox, this is my 2nd or 3rd time ghanging with
Bill V: (11:57:40 PM) and I've NVEVER hung with all of them together
Bill V: (11:57:45 PM) i want that to be clear
Bill V: (11:57:52 PM) but what was i gonna tell them
Bill V: (11:57:53 PM) no?
Bill V: (11:58:20 PM) But yes, I know they do
Bill V: (11:58:30 PM) and they tell me they do
Bill V: (11:58:37 PM) remember how i mentioned that made me feel weird
Bill V: (11:58:43 PM) but you thought i was talking about your side
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:58:54 PM) oh yeah. Chase found the idol. All by himself. lol
Bill V: (11:59:01 PM) mark got it for him
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:59:04 PM) Nope.
Bill V: (11:59:05 PM) i actually didn't
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:59:11 PM) I gave Chase the idol clues.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:59:16 PM) Mark went to Knox and Thiago with the info.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:59:25 PM) but I got it to Ellen and Chase first.
Bill V: (11:59:26 PM) Well this is what THaigo told me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:59:31 PM) See the honesety? Truth will set you free.
Bill V: (11:59:34 PM) hey
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (11:59:35 PM) Of course that's what Thiago told you.
Bill V: (11:59:41 PM) I know i'm stuck where i am
Bill V: (11:59:48 PM) i know my spot isn't fun
Bill V: (11:59:53 PM) but it is what it is
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:00:21 AM) in an ideal world, i would love to give you purple rock immunity cause i like you as a person and a player
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:00:24 AM) but i just don't know anymore.
Bill V: (12:00:31 AM) well, honestly i mean if i go by a rock
Bill V: (12:00:35 AM) idk idc
Bill V: (12:00:39 AM) i'll go do something else
Bill V: (12:00:43 AM) youre totally safe
Bill V: (12:00:52 AM) i woulda put te vote on you tho to give you safety
Bill V: (12:00:58 AM) but thwat was just what i woulda done
Bill V: (12:01:02 AM) if you don't do that for me, ok
Bill V: (12:01:06 AM) i understand
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:01:08 AM) I told you i would do that for you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:01:10 AM) days ago
Bill V: (12:01:12 AM) ok
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:01:17 AM) yet you still didn't admit the truth until i caught you in a lie.
Bill V: (12:01:22 AM) give it to thaigo or knox then
Bill V: (12:01:29 AM) i have no issue drawing
Bill V: (12:01:53 AM) even if i lied
Bill V: (12:01:57 AM) i told you the truth after
Bill V: (12:02:01 AM) how many others are doing that
Bill V: (12:02:05 AM) that's the question i pose
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:02:18 AM) Is Knox just pretending to be my friend?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:02:24 AM) Just like you were sent to get close to me and selena?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:02:35 AM) I just want honesty at this point.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:02:40 AM) It's gonna hurt, but it needs to come out.
Bill V: (12:02:45 AM) no, i did that because i wanted safety
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:02:47 AM) I'll keep it to myself but it will limit what I say to him.
Bill V: (12:02:50 AM) that was an individual choice
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:03:34 AM) and what about knox?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:03:40 AM) I know you have somewhat of a grasp on what they do.
Bill V: (12:03:42 AM) what about him?
Bill V: (12:03:51 AM) well duh they tell me what they wanna do
Bill V: (12:04:02 AM) and i keep it to myself, like i keep what you say to myself
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:04:17 AM) I just wanna know if they sent knox over to befriend me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:04:21 AM) just so he can report back with info
Bill V: (12:05:35 AM) ummm idk what they told knox
Bill V: (12:05:41 AM) i haven't heard either way
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:05:48 AM) I just can't trust anyone anymore.
Bill V: (12:06:04 AM) welcome to survivor
Bill V: (12:06:05 AM) haha
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:06:09 AM) wow.
Bill V: (12:06:17 AM) wait
Bill V: (12:06:22 AM) you took that the wrong way
Bill V: (12:06:26 AM) so, if you trust no one, as a lone ranger
Bill V: (12:06:32 AM) what does your gut say
Bill V: (12:06:51 AM) my gut says to trust you, despite that you've been upset with me. hence why i'm still trying
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:07:05 AM) of course i'm upset with you
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:07:13 AM) i've been lied to
Bill V: (12:07:31 AM) i understnd that
Bill V: (12:07:35 AM) i mean
Bill V: (12:07:38 AM) vote for thaigo
Bill V: (12:07:44 AM) let him have safety
Bill V: (12:07:51 AM) and knox and i can pull with one of you
Bill V: (12:07:54 AM) ya'll*
Bill V: (12:07:59 AM) and maybe i'd go
Bill V: (12:08:07 AM) 33% chance
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:12:51 AM) i honestly don't even know what to say right now.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:13:00 AM) i've been trying to think of a reply to that for like 5 minutes
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:13:06 AM) cause even after all this, i still don't want you to go
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:13:19 AM) Everyone can go at this point for all i care.
Bill V: (12:13:22 AM) i mean, do you want to trust someone who's admitted i tried to lie to you for safey
Bill V: (12:13:33 AM) or someone who hasn't even had that convo with you
Bill V: (12:13:40 AM) thats your choice
Bill V: (12:13:50 AM) if i have to draw for it, i understand
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:13:50 AM) who is "someone"
Bill V: (12:14:07 AM) idk idk how serious the convos are with the others that you have
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:19:40 AM) I seriously thought I had a friendship going with Knox but now I know about the fake idol shit
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:19:46 AM) Where is Thiago in all of this?
Bill V: (12:20:15 AM) ummm idk
Bill V: (12:20:26 AM) i figured y'all were gonna approach him about being the swing
Bill V: (12:20:28 AM) not me
Bill V: (12:20:35 AM) but then he fought with Ellen
Bill V: (12:20:43 AM) Thaigo is trying to just hide, i think
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:21:19 AM) Another question that I want an honest answer from
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:21:24 AM) would you flip in the revote to avoid rocks?
Bill V: (12:21:44 AM) no
Bill V: (12:21:51 AM) cuz then i'd be the south pacific cochran
Bill V: (12:22:03 AM) i'd never win the jury vote, even if i got to thend
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:22:06 AM) i don't watch survivor so i have no idea what that means
Bill V: (12:22:20 AM) i'd have zero shot at anone's vote who was counting on me
Bill V: (12:22:29 AM) regardless of how i feel about their alliance
Bill V: (12:22:36 AM) i couldn't flip to be a 7th wheel
Bill V: (12:22:42 AM) nor would i expect you to
Bill V: (12:22:59 AM) imagine what Luca/Selena/Ben/Colleen would say to you if you flipped your vote
Bill V: (12:23:06 AM) I'd love 5 jury votes
Bill V: (12:23:09 AM) lose*
Bill V: (12:23:32 AM) i mean, i want to play an individual game at some point
Bill V: (12:23:43 AM) but i can't in this spot, when everyone is looking to me for a revote
Bill V: (12:23:51 AM) i can't make that choice inidividually
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:24:11 AM) It was an individual choice to befriend me and then tell me the truth about the plan they sent you to do.
Bill V: (12:24:31 AM) this is true
Bill V: (12:24:37 AM) but that's not a public decision
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:24:47 AM) Do they know you revealed all to me?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:24:54 AM) or is it a reverse psychology ploy?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:25:05 AM) You really have the idol but you're faking honesty by ~showing me the fake one and coming clean~
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:25:15 AM) This gets me to respect you and be like "OKAY HENRY YOU'RE SO SAFE"
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:25:18 AM) then boom. real idol comes out.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:25:37 AM) there's a lot of possibilities and you watch a lot of reality tv. so you know more than anybody why i can't trust everything you're saying right now.
Bill V: (12:25:44 AM) i have no idea what anyone else has said to you
Bill V: (12:25:53 AM) i know you can't trust me
Bill V: (12:25:58 AM) thats why i can't vote with you
Bill V: (12:26:08 AM) but at some point if you'd wanna vote with me
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:26:17 AM) Okay fine. Let's make it this round/
Bill V: (12:26:19 AM) i feel like i'm more logical to talk to than others
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:26:50 AM) I never said I can't trust you. But after being lied to, how am I supposed to trust EVERY single thing you're tellin gme.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:26:52 AM) ya know?
Bill V: (12:27:08 AM) because i didn't defend it to the death
Bill V: (12:27:12 AM) so how commited was i to it
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:27:54 AM) but then you just tell me "no im not fllipping, i dont wanna be a south pacific cochran"
Bill V: (12:29:20 AM) right
Bill V: (12:29:27 AM) i can't flip this vote
Bill V: (12:29:30 AM) no one can
Bill V: (12:29:34 AM) that's suicide
Bill V: (12:29:43 AM) you guys can't either
Bill V: (12:31:37 AM) i respect whatever decision you make
Bill V: (12:31:40 AM) just know that
Bill V: (12:42:47 AM) alright well
Bill V: (12:44:00 AM) I see you changed the password for the cbs thing
Bill V: (12:44:09 AM) which is ok, i really prolly need to go do other things anyway
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:44:16 AM) it was a spur of the moment decision cause i was angry.
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:44:18 AM) i'll change it back.
Bill V: (12:44:47 AM) its totally your decision, just let me know if you do, cuz i'll still totally gossip about them with you
Bill V: (12:44:51 AM) no matter what
Bill V: (12:44:53 AM) lol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:44:59 AM) changed back.
Bill V: (12:45:19 AM) have u been watching them tonight?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:46:17 AM) not really
Bill V: (12:47:28 AM) me neither, today was a bit boring
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:47:40 AM) yeah.
Bill V: (12:47:56 AM) but i was listening in at one point, and Andy and Helen were talking about Chicago
Bill V: (12:47:59 AM) and i was like OMG
Bill V: (12:54:45 AM) do you have them on aim?
Bill V: (12:54:48 AM) atm*
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (12:54:57 AM) no.
Bill V: (12:57:05 AM) its just GM and Nick
Bill V: (12:57:09 AM) and McCrae and Amanda
Bill V: (12:57:23 AM) nothing to report
Bill V: (1:14:08 AM) have u heard
Bill V: (1:14:12 AM) about the house talking about Rick?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:20:07 AM) what?
Bill V: (1:22:18 AM) Rick
Bill V: (1:22:22 AM) Nick's twin
Bill V: (1:22:31 AM) the whole house think Nick as a twin in the house too
Bill V: (1:22:33 AM) named Rick
Bill V: (1:22:38 AM) and he's the gay one
Bill V: (1:22:39 AM) lol
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:33:46 AM) lol awkward
Bill V: (1:36:46 AM) WE should come up with twins
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:37:37 AM) haha that'd be cute
Bill V: (1:38:35 AM) Who's your twin?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:40:34 AM) lol wuttt?
Bill V: (1:40:44 AM) you need a twin name
Bill V: (1:40:47 AM) and i'll get a twin name
Bill V: (1:40:54 AM) and anything for the rest of the game that happens
Bill V: (1:40:59 AM) we can just blame it on the twin
Bill V: (1:41:07 AM) like how Nick blames everything on Rick
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:41:15 AM) okay my twin is named Tom
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:41:16 AM) Dom and Tom
Bill V: (1:41:41 AM) Henry and Harold?
Bill V: (1:41:45 AM) Howard?
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:44:36 AM) hmm... Henry and Harry
Bill V: (1:47:21 AM) i can run with harry
[Ryann] Dominic GVSE: (1:47:29 AM) uhm you better he's your twin
Bill V: (1:47:37 AM) lol

[henry]

Selena GVSE: (11:21:54 PM) Hey, when you get on can we talk?
Bill V: (11:22:07 PM) I'm here!
Selena GVSE: (11:22:12 PM) Oh really
Bill V: (11:23:20 PM) hai
Selena GVSE: (11:23:26 PM) How are you?
Bill V: (11:23:31 PM) awesome
Bill V: (11:23:35 PM) howare you?
Selena GVSE: (11:23:41 PM) I'm good you?
Selena GVSE: (11:23:47 PM) Mad we lost this challenge kinda of
Bill V: (11:25:25 PM) I heard
Bill V: (11:25:31 PM) who has indiv immunity?
Selena GVSE: (11:25:46 PM) Dominic.
Bill V: (11:26:53 PM) ah ok
Selena GVSE: (11:27:21 PM) Mhm. Like I feel as if some people like Knox didn't try in this challenge.
Bill V: (11:29:08 PM) well therewas lots of notable stuff
Selena GVSE: (11:31:19 PM) What?
Bill V: (11:37:22 PM) nm
Selena GVSE: (11:37:28 PM) ...
Selena GVSE: (11:37:32 PM) What does that mean
Selena GVSE: (11:41:03 PM) ?
Bill V: (11:41:53 PM) sorry
Bill V: (11:41:55 PM) i'm talking to Dom
Bill V: (11:42:03 PM) and its just hard to focus on 2 things at once
Selena GVSE: (11:42:29 PM) It's alright talk with me when you get back.
Bill V: (11:44:11 PM) ok i'm here
Bill V: (11:44:18 PM) i think dom got mad at me
Selena GVSE: (11:44:32 PM) First off
Selena GVSE: (11:44:50 PM) I am done with Knox. I am voting his ass out this round.
Selena GVSE: (11:45:08 PM) For him to say that I am targetting him for racial slurs is absolutely uncalled for in a game. I am done with him and his fucking bullshit.
Selena GVSE: (11:45:28 PM) I feel like people aligned with him are egging it on. Tell me you aren't?
Bill V: (11:47:07 PM) i'd rather you vote for me
Bill V: (11:47:09 PM) tbh
Bill V: (11:47:13 PM) its gonna go to rocks
Bill V: (11:47:17 PM) so if you want him out
Bill V: (11:47:21 PM) you gotta make him draw
Bill V: (11:47:28 PM) you'll give him immunity any other way
Selena GVSE: (11:47:42 PM) I'm most likely the vote this round am I not?
Selena GVSE: (11:48:03 PM) I cannot STAND him I will do whatever it takes for him to leave the game permentantly
Bill V: (11:48:30 PM) you know i can't say
Bill V: (11:48:33 PM) cuz of the idol
Bill V: (11:48:42 PM) well the vote will be 3-3
Bill V: (11:48:48 PM) so whoever you vote for is going to stay
Bill V: (11:49:04 PM) so i hope you'd keep in the game someone who you'd want to play with
Bill V: (11:50:10 PM) i'm sure Dom has told you
Selena GVSE: (11:50:12 PM) Why can't you tell me the truth at least? Has my name been brought up, yes or no?
Selena GVSE: (11:50:26 PM) I don't care what Dominic has or hasn't told me. I want the truth about the vote.
Bill V: (11:50:48 PM) there is no official name yet
Selena GVSE: (11:50:51 PM) I'm more concerned about leaving over Knox. If you can give me info I will vote for you in hopes he goes.
Bill V: (11:50:51 PM) of who the vote is for
Bill V: (11:51:09 PM) i told knox if he wants you to go
Bill V: (11:51:15 PM) then we should't vote for you
Selena GVSE: (11:51:55 PM) So it's either going to be Dominic or Luca essentially.
Bill V: (11:52:24 PM) but Dom has immunity
Bill V: (11:52:31 PM) we have to vote for you or Luca
Bill V: (11:52:36 PM) one will draw rocks
Selena GVSE: (11:52:36 PM) Well Luca or me is going.
Bill V: (11:52:41 PM) one will be safe
Selena GVSE: (11:54:34 PM) Yeah I know that. I just think it's very low how this game is turning out.
Selena GVSE: (11:54:45 PM) Very low standards from people apparently passes as good game play.
Bill V: (11:55:32 PM) idk what to do differently
Selena GVSE: (11:55:37 PM) It's not you.
Selena GVSE: (11:55:41 PM) I am talking about Knox.
Bill V: (11:55:54 PM) i can't controll them
Bill V: (11:55:58 PM) i don't approve of it
Selena GVSE: (11:56:01 PM) Honestly out of the others I like you the most. I feel as if we had more genuine talks.
Bill V: (11:56:29 PM) for sure
Selena GVSE: (11:56:30 PM) I mean I am sure it's become a big joke of how I am mean to poor Knox. The alliance he is with is condoning his behavior.
Bill V: (11:56:32 PM) i enjoy you
Bill V: (11:56:39 PM) i don't care about you and Knox
Bill V: (11:56:43 PM) and your issues
Selena GVSE: (11:57:26 PM) I care a lot because to be told I am using racial stereotypes because I used SPANISH words is offensive
Selena GVSE: (11:57:30 PM) Behind this game it's offensive.
Bill V: (11:58:11 PM) i have no idea what the context of any of that was
Selena GVSE: (11:58:33 PM) I said adios chico to him and he saying I'm racially profiling him.
Selena GVSE: (11:58:49 PM) Yet he uses spanish to verbally attack me in MULTIPLE fights.
Selena GVSE: (12:01:25 AM) I'm sorry for ranting, but I am SO frustrating.
Selena GVSE: (12:01:32 AM) *FRUSTRATED
Bill V: (12:02:18 AM) i totally understand
Bill V: (12:02:22 AM) i'm sorry you've had this issue
Bill V: (12:02:28 AM) honestly, its fun for none of us
Selena GVSE: (12:02:36 AM) I had an issue since day 1 because I lied to him apparently and he never lies.
Selena GVSE: (12:03:16 AM) I enjoy everyone in this game except for him. Me and you have had good talks. I was genuine in them
Bill V: (12:03:33 AM) for sure
Bill V: (12:03:35 AM) we have fun
Bill V: (12:05:49 AM) apparently knox is really upset
Bill V: (12:05:53 AM) and idk what to tell him
Selena GVSE: (12:07:20 AM) I'm can't even.
Selena GVSE: (12:07:22 AM) I'm done.
Bill V: (12:08:20 AM) idk what to say
Bill V: (12:08:28 AM) i feel very stuk in the middle
Bill V: (12:08:32 AM) plz don't go off on me
Bill V: (12:08:52 AM) plz just get your crew to vote for me
Bill V: (12:09:00 AM) i want to be safe and to stay out of all of it
Selena GVSE: (12:09:08 AM) I'm not going off on you.
Selena GVSE: (12:09:20 AM) I don't blame you
Bill V: (12:10:22 AM) ok
Bill V: (12:10:26 AM) i just don't know what i can say
Bill V: (12:10:36 AM) so i hope u understand why i stay out of these situations
Selena GVSE: (12:12:05 AM) No I completely understand and if you have to bad mouth me do it. I'm whatever I don't even care what people say about me anymore.
Selena GVSE: (12:12:16 AM) I'm playing a game and that's all I want to do.
Bill V: (12:12:56 AM) of coruse
Selena GVSE: (12:14:51 AM) I hope you don't think I ws being mean with you or anything
Selena GVSE: (12:14:55 AM) Was I?
Selena GVSE: (12:15:01 AM) If so I will apologize to you.
Bill V: (12:16:08 AM) not at all!
Bill V: (12:16:12 AM) you're being so nice!
Bill V: (12:16:17 AM) Dom's kinda upset with me
Bill V: (12:16:21 AM) but we've had no issues
Selena GVSE: (12:17:24 AM) What is the protrayal of me and Dominic since I'm sure there is one?
Selena GVSE: (12:17:35 AM) Like he might be upset with you but I'm not.
Bill V: (12:17:47 AM) ummmm
Bill V: (12:17:50 AM) i think
Bill V: (12:17:57 AM) that you're both independent thinkers
Bill V: (12:18:01 AM) but youre stuck in an allianec
Bill V: (12:18:17 AM) so its what you gotta do, no matter how free-thinking you are
Bill V: (12:18:20 AM) and i relate to that
Bill V: (12:18:29 AM) i think you're both ok
Bill V: (12:18:36 AM) you both reach out to me more than Luca does
Selena GVSE: (12:19:20 AM) I feel as if there are people in this game that are using others to their advantage and it so happens there's two sides.
Selena GVSE: (12:19:38 AM) There definitely is a totem pole which is quite obvious
Bill V: (12:27:41 AM) of course
Bill V: (12:27:46 AM) and i know i'm at the bottom of mine
Bill V: (12:27:50 AM) but i can't flip atm
Bill V: (12:28:02 AM) cuz i'd lose a ton of jury votes without having any REAL guarantee of safety
Selena GVSE: (12:28:40 AM) I understand
Bill V: (12:29:55 AM) but i like you
Bill V: (12:30:03 AM) and i like Dom, even thogh he's mad at me
Bill V: (12:30:06 AM) cuz i won't flip
Bill V: (12:33:27 AM) i mean
Bill V: (12:33:30 AM) my hands are tied
Bill V: (12:33:34 AM) as far as not making this 3-3
Bill V: (12:33:42 AM) but i'd like to stay
Bill V: (12:33:44 AM) obviously
Bill V: (12:33:55 AM) just due to the fact that i'd like to thikn i'm more pleasant to be around
Bill V: (12:33:57 AM) lmao
Bill V: (12:34:09 AM) but i know all 3 of you have to decide
Bill V: (12:34:27 AM) and idk if Dom will wanna save me
Selena GVSE: (12:36:40 AM) I don't know where the votes are laying right now.
Bill V: (12:38:00 AM) i mean
Bill V: (12:38:06 AM) between luca and you
Bill V: (12:38:14 AM) i'll let u guess where the votes lay
Selena GVSE: (12:39:01 AM) Huh? If I tell you the vote on our side when it comes out will you do the same?
Bill V: (12:39:18 AM) i have confidence niether of us have idols
Bill V: (12:39:36 AM) Thaigo already voted for Luca, so I have to vote for Luca
Bill V: (12:40:05 AM) I have zero control in the issue
Selena GVSE: (12:40:27 AM) I don't even have an idol and never have.
Bill V: (12:40:40 AM) i know that's my rep
Bill V: (12:40:48 AM) but i have never had an idol this game
Bill V: (12:40:56 AM) nor been smart enough to crack any clues
Bill V: (12:40:58 AM) lol
Selena GVSE: (12:43:06 AM) mhm me either
Selena GVSE: (12:45:24 AM) I don't find idols.
Bill V: (12:53:51 AM) haha
Bill V: (12:53:56 AM) i mean, i got them
Bill V: (12:54:01 AM) but i was against wendy
Selena GVSE: (12:54:57 AM) Last season
Selena GVSE: (12:54:57 AM) ?
Bill V: (12:56:52 AM) haha back in season 2
Bill V: (12:56:56 AM) like anyone remembers season 2
Selena GVSE: (12:59:04 AM) I don't even remember any season other than my own
Selena GVSE: (12:59:09 AM) still I am foggy.
Bill V: (12:59:30 AM) haha
Bill V: (12:59:31 AM) amen.
Bill V: (12:59:35 AM) I was the worst PW in history
Bill V: (12:59:58 AM) so, speaking honestly, you/luca/dom are online. have you decided who youre voting for?
Selena GVSE: (1:01:09 AM) No, both of them are away
Selena GVSE: (1:01:17 AM) Yeah I might avhe been a bad one too
Bill V: (1:01:42 AM) well, i don't remember you outright hating me like some others
Bill V: (1:01:42 AM) lol
Bill V: (1:01:50 AM) so you musnt of been that bad
Selena GVSE: (1:02:33 AM) haha I didn't even really comment in S2.
Selena GVSE: (1:02:40 AM) I never read the thread.s
Selena GVSE: (1:02:43 AM) *threads
Bill V: (1:03:42 AM) lol
Bill V: (1:03:55 AM) in S3 all i did was disagree with whatever Annie/Emily said
Selena GVSE: (1:03:59 AM) lmao!
Bill V: (1:04:07 AM) #troll
Selena GVSE: (1:04:09 AM) I don't even remember S3
Bill V: (1:04:50 AM) i couldn't tell you anything other than theres a bunch of them still left
Bill V: (1:04:53 AM) lol
Selena GVSE: (1:05:55 AM) Bunch of what? Trolls?
Bill V: (1:08:51 AM) oh, just season 3 ppl
Bill V: (1:09:34 AM) AJ/Cassie/Ellen/Colleen
Bill V: (1:09:37 AM) oh, nm, just four
Selena GVSE: (1:09:58 AM) Ohhh
Selena GVSE: (1:10:00 AM) I never knew that
Bill V: (1:11:17 AM)
Selena GVSE: (1:12:16 AM) That's a lot!
Bill V: (1:12:31 AM) You're the only season 1!
Bill V: (1:12:35 AM) and I'm the only Season 2
Selena GVSE: (1:12:35 AM) mhm.
Selena GVSE: (1:12:41 AM) sad sad sad;(
Bill V: (1:12:49 AM) ah well, this was a new-school game
Bill V: (1:13:00 AM) at least you had the season 5 experience
Bill V: (1:13:08 AM) the one person to have the same rep 3 times!
Selena GVSE: (1:15:07 AM) mhm i've done poorly
Bill V: (1:15:30 AM) #secondplaceclub
Selena GVSE: (1:15:41 AM) ;P didn't u place 2nd?
Bill V: (1:15:47 AM) yupyup
Selena GVSE: (1:20:01 AM) 4-3 too?
Bill V: (1:22:45 AM) naw
Bill V: (1:22:48 AM) 6-3-0
Bill V: (1:23:22 AM) I got the good votes and Annie got the Evil votes
Selena GVSE: (1:24:02 AM) She is very evil
Selena GVSE: (1:24:05 AM) Sometimes she is really mean
Bill V: (1:24:26 AM) haha, well, you know i'm not going to voice my opinion on the matter
Selena GVSE: (1:25:35 AM) haha its okay I already know how she acts.
Bill V: (1:27:50 AM) lol k
Selena GVSE: (1:38:27 AM) lol

[henry]

Knox GVSE: (1:00:52 AM) i really, really appreciate what you said tho. it means a lot
Knox GVSE: (1:01:00 AM) i feel so bipolar because im like fine now
Bill V: (1:01:10 AM) we all have those moments
Bill V: (1:01:15 AM) thats totally normal
Bill V: (1:01:22 AM) its just all about how you respond
Knox GVSE: (1:01:44 AM) haha such a psych answer
Knox GVSE: (1:01:46 AM) but its true
Bill V: (1:02:07 AM) i wouldn't of studied it if i didn't agree with it
Bill V: (1:02:08 AM) lol
Knox GVSE: (1:02:14 AM) good point