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Post by henry on Jun 25, 2013 23:57:57 GMT -5
Bill V: (11:33:46 PM) wtf happened!
Chase Ingmen: (11:33:58 PM) Good question
Bill V: (11:34:12 PM) i heard it was 4-2-2
Chase Ingmen: (11:36:21 PM) It was...
Chase Ingmen: (11:36:27 PM) It's been such a fucking mess
Chase Ingmen: (11:36:34 PM) And now I just feel screwed
Chase Ingmen: (11:36:40 PM) I was lied to so much this round
Bill V: (11:36:42 PM) thats a flat out disaster
Chase Ingmen: (11:36:53 PM) mmhmm
Chase Ingmen: (11:36:55 PM) I know
Bill V: (11:37:07 PM) its so frustrating
Bill V: (11:37:12 PM) cuz theres nothing i can do
Bill V: (11:37:17 PM) other than watch u fail
Chase Ingmen: (11:42:36 PM) I was reassured so many times that it would be Luca
Bill V: (11:43:41 PM) i thought u said quincy voted for salena
Bill V: (11:43:59 PM) i mean, 4 of you voted not together
Bill V: (11:44:04 PM) there was a tie to be had
Chase Ingmen: (11:44:04 PM) He came back online
Bill V: (11:44:23 PM) there was just a failure between you guys to get on the same page
Chase Ingmen: (11:44:23 PM) Selena and Dom told us they were both voting for Luca
Bill V: (11:44:32 PM) why the fuck did you trust them?
Bill V: (11:44:35 PM) they threw the comp
Bill V: (11:44:37 PM) with Luca
Chase Ingmen: (11:44:44 PM) I KNOW
Chase Ingmen: (11:44:48 PM) I PLAYED SO FUCKING DUMB
Bill V: (11:44:52 PM) that's dumb
Chase Ingmen: (11:45:01 PM) At least you are being real :/
Chase Ingmen: (11:45:06 PM) But trust me, I know
Bill V: (11:45:12 PM) You, Cassie, Michael, and Quincy needed to work together
Bill V: (11:45:15 PM) and you didn't
Bill V: (11:45:20 PM) so now youre fucked over there
Bill V: (11:45:32 PM) and that fucks all of us going into any merge
Chase Ingmen: (11:45:43 PM) I know
Chase Ingmen: (11:45:44 PM) I know
Chase Ingmen: (11:45:45 PM) I know
Chase Ingmen: (11:46:05 PM) Please don't be mad at me
Bill V: (11:46:35 PM) I mean
Bill V: (11:46:38 PM) we'll go from here
Bill V: (11:46:42 PM) it is what it is
Bill V: (11:46:48 PM) but it was a mistake, that's all
Bill V: (11:47:17 PM) you, cassie, and michael are clearly all in line to go
Bill V: (11:47:20 PM) now
Bill V: (11:47:35 PM) and you lost the opportunity to change that by bad voting
Chase Ingmen: (11:47:44 PM) Trust me
Chase Ingmen: (11:47:45 PM) I know
Bill V: (11:47:53 PM) well either youre being lied to
Chase Ingmen: (11:48:00 PM) I know I was lied to
Bill V: (11:48:01 PM) or the others are horrid at strategy
Bill V: (11:48:08 PM) well i'm not saying by dom and salena
Chase Ingmen: (11:48:11 PM) oh
Bill V: (11:48:17 PM) but my cassie, michael, and quincy
Bill V: (11:48:22 PM) either 2 of them lied to you
Chase Ingmen: (11:48:22 PM) Dom played a damn good lie
Bill V: (11:48:29 PM) you guys were dumb to trust him
Bill V: (11:48:32 PM) if any of you did
Bill V: (11:48:35 PM) it was dumb
Bill V: (11:48:41 PM) everyone on my tribe knew that
Bill V: (11:48:58 PM) theres no excuse for that vote to be 4-2-2
Bill V: (11:49:15 PM) if you guys all 4 intended to keep u 4 in the game
Chase Ingmen: (11:49:24 PM) Look, please don't bitch me out right now
Chase Ingmen: (11:49:27 PM) I know it was dumb
Chase Ingmen: (11:49:34 PM) I don't know what else you want me to say
Bill V: (11:49:42 PM) its fine
Chase Ingmen: (11:49:44 PM) I'm in a bad spot
Chase Ingmen: (11:49:45 PM) I know
Bill V: (11:49:45 PM) i just don't get
Bill V: (11:49:49 PM) who messed it up
Bill V: (11:49:59 PM) and how whoever messed it up
Bill V: (11:50:04 PM) thought it was a good idea
Chase Ingmen: (11:50:23 PM) Alright, I'm sorry we fucked up
Chase Ingmen: (11:50:29 PM) I can't deal with this right now though
Chase Ingmen: (11:50:45 PM) I'm already having a rough enough night that I don't need this from you
Chase Ingmen: (11:50:49 PM) Please
Bill V: (11:51:17 PM) i'm sorry
Bill V: (11:51:23 PM) my apologies
Bill V: (11:51:27 PM) for causing more stress
Bill V: (11:51:43 PM) def not my intention
Chase Ingmen: (11:51:56 PM) It's all good
Chase Ingmen: (11:52:01 PM) I understand where it is coming from
Chase Ingmen: (11:52:21 PM) I'm just feeling pretty betrayed right now, and I just would rather not get yelled at more...
Bill V: (11:53:19 PM) no worries
Bill V: (11:53:23 PM) you do what u gotta
Chase Ingmen signed off at 11:56 PM.
Chase Ingmen is offline
Bill V: (11:57:04 PM) bye
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Post by henry on Jun 26, 2013 17:15:37 GMT -5
Bill V: (2:58:07 PM) hey
Mark GVSE: (2:58:14 PM) hey man, what's up?
Bill V: (2:58:20 PM) not a whole lot
Bill V: (2:58:25 PM) just playing candy crush, haha
Bill V: (2:58:40 PM) how are you?
Mark GVSE: (2:58:42 PM) ok...I see that constantly on facebook....what is that mess about?
Mark GVSE: (2:58:45 PM) I'm pretty good
Bill V: (2:58:50 PM) DONT PLAY IT
Bill V: (2:58:57 PM) its addicting and it sucks out your soul
Mark GVSE: (2:59:03 PM) like angry birds?
Mark GVSE: (2:59:08 PM) so maybe it will last for a season?
Bill V: (2:59:21 PM) yeah
Bill V: (2:59:27 PM) but its pretty much bejewled
Bill V: (2:59:29 PM) but with missions
Bill V: (2:59:34 PM) instead of just going for speed and points
Mark GVSE: (3:00:07 PM) yeah I don't need to get addicted to that
Bill V: (3:00:11 PM) lol
Bill V: (3:00:16 PM) hows work?
Mark GVSE: (3:00:28 PM) I'm actually banging my head against my computer as we speak...hahaha
Bill V: (3:00:41 PM) haha ruh ro
Mark GVSE: (3:01:16 PM) programming is such a volatile field
Bill V: (3:01:28 PM) idk if i'd have the patience
Mark GVSE: (3:01:41 PM) I do most of the time, but today I just don't feel like it
Mark GVSE: (3:01:48 PM) and my neck is hurting...hahaha
Bill V: (3:03:05 PM) u need a massage
Mark GVSE: (3:03:37 PM) yes.i.do.
Mark GVSE: (3:03:53 PM) haha Megan is making us reservations to get pedicures on saturday
Mark GVSE: (3:03:54 PM) LOL
Mark GVSE: (3:03:58 PM) i've never done that before
Bill V: (3:04:32 PM) haha you'll have to tell me how it is
Bill V: (3:04:40 PM) idk if i'd want someone working on my feet
Mark GVSE: (3:05:09 PM) I don't know how I feel about it, but she's been moaning about needing a pedicure since the baby got here
Mark GVSE: (3:05:18 PM) so I figured, what the heck
Bill V: (3:08:44 PM) for sure, good bonding time
Mark GVSE: (3:09:01 PM) what do you think of everything that went down last night?
Bill V: (3:10:06 PM) did you and i talk last night by chance?
Mark GVSE: (3:10:33 PM) no we didn't
Mark GVSE: (3:10:43 PM) ...
Bill V: (3:10:54 PM) lol ok
Bill V: (3:11:08 PM) i got accidental drunk with some friends playing mario kart last night
Bill V: (3:11:12 PM) cuz i'm apparently 19 again
Bill V: (3:11:13 PM) lol
Mark GVSE: (3:11:14 PM) LOL
Mark GVSE: (3:11:23 PM) I was about to say...am I that forgettable???
Mark GVSE: (3:11:25 PM) lolol
Bill V: (3:11:28 PM) lol no!
Bill V: (3:11:32 PM) just everything was forgettable
Bill V: (3:11:49 PM) uhh so what did u think about the vote? did anything happen last night other than the vote results?
Mark GVSE: (3:12:42 PM) Not to my knowledge...I just know that people involved were trying to explain it away
Mark GVSE: (3:12:54 PM) and like people are really upset
Mark GVSE: (3:13:00 PM) but I was like....who is Quincy?
Mark GVSE: (3:13:05 PM) lol
Bill V: (3:13:11 PM) lmfao I'd ALWAYS forget he was on my tribe
Bill V: (3:13:16 PM) when i'd do a confessional about the group
Bill V: (3:13:48 PM) and i mean i liked the guy, wouldn't of voted for him or nothin
Bill V: (3:13:54 PM) but he just wasn't online as much
Bill V: (3:13:56 PM) so i'd forget
Mark GVSE: (3:14:35 PM) I don't think I ever added him to my list
Mark GVSE: (3:14:44 PM) which is probably why I forgot he was in the game too
Bill V: (3:16:36 PM) haha whoops
Bill V: (3:16:47 PM) so looking at the vote
Bill V: (3:16:52 PM) what do you think happened?
Bill V: (3:17:03 PM) idk that i've actually gotten the story yet, and what you think about the story being presented
Mark GVSE: (3:17:53 PM) well, the story presented to me was that Quincy was being a double-dipper
Mark GVSE: (3:18:07 PM) which *shrug* makes no difference to me what he was doing
Mark GVSE: (3:18:20 PM) because the people that voted him out are making an art of it
Mark GVSE: (3:18:21 PM) lol
Mark GVSE: (3:18:54 PM) you don't bait people into believing someone has an idol, bait people into splitting their votes, blindside them, then blame it on the person voted out
Mark GVSE: (3:18:58 PM) so incriminating
Bill V: (3:21:56 PM) Yeah I just don't get it
Bill V: (3:21:58 PM) at all
Bill V: (3:22:15 PM) like, they all saw who threw the challenge
Bill V: (3:22:20 PM) and then they trusted them?
Mark GVSE: (3:22:28 PM) well that was bad on them
Bill V: (3:22:36 PM) it almost makes me suspicious
Bill V: (3:22:38 PM) ya know what i mean
Mark GVSE: (3:22:49 PM) as in the whole thing is a coup?
Bill V: (3:23:13 PM) like, was everyone really duped?
Bill V: (3:23:33 PM) as an outside observer it felt pretty obvious to me what 4 people were gonna vote together
Mark GVSE: (3:24:19 PM) right, and I can't speak about Cassie or even Michael for that matter
Mark GVSE: (3:24:33 PM) but Chase doesn't really think things through altogether
Mark GVSE: (3:24:53 PM) I mean, you and I viewed that just recently in Offensive
Mark GVSE: (3:25:09 PM) He took what I had to say to him as a mentor and did the complete opposite of the information
Bill V: (3:25:45 PM) lmao
Bill V: (3:26:00 PM) right
Bill V: (3:26:10 PM) but i mean, cassie's come in first and third in the series
Bill V: (3:26:15 PM) was that just a fluke?
Mark GVSE: (3:26:53 PM) there is one thing I learned last season...and this is why I asked you the other day if you thought the experience was completely different from offensive
Mark GVSE: (3:27:04 PM) everything always turned out to be as it seemed
Mark GVSE: (3:27:33 PM) it's hard to explain, but the gaming here isn't as...elaborate
Mark GVSE: (3:27:43 PM) does that make sense?
Mark GVSE: (3:28:04 PM) and I'm, by no means, implying that I'm smarter than anyone here
Mark GVSE: (3:28:23 PM) it's just I came prepared to play the game hard, and everything was so straightforward in my season
Bill V: (3:29:18 PM) mmhm, i understand what you mean
Bill V: (3:29:53 PM) well, i think we should continue to compare notes in this game, because i'm still not positive what to make of this
Bill V: (3:30:02 PM) i guess we'll see how it plays out
Mark GVSE: (3:31:01 PM) I agree
Mark GVSE: (3:31:08 PM) what I make of it is there are two warring factions
Mark GVSE: (3:31:18 PM) and you and I in particular aren't a part of either
Mark GVSE: (3:31:18 PM) lol
Bill V: (3:31:46 PM) mmhm
Bill V: (3:32:09 PM) and really neither was Quincy
Mark GVSE: (3:33:20 PM) I have no idea either way
Bill V: (3:35:25 PM) mhm
Mark GVSE: (3:36:17 PM) at any rate, I'm not all freaking out like everyone else is....lol
Mark GVSE: (3:36:29 PM) it's not like this huge scary group will just run away with the game
Mark GVSE: (3:36:40 PM) someone's bound to get antsy and try to make moves
Bill V: (3:38:07 PM) unless the group that gets power is because they're personal friends
Bill V: (3:38:10 PM) i agree with you
Mark GVSE: (3:38:46 PM) I'd rather lose the challenge, honestly, but I'm not gonna go all out trying to throw it either
Bill V: (3:39:03 PM) I'm ok with either result
Bill V: (3:39:12 PM) I don't think you or I are targets in a TC
Bill V: (3:39:24 PM) but losing also guarantees safety and maybe more insight to the other tribe
Mark GVSE: (3:39:53 PM) yeah, I agree
Mark GVSE: (3:40:11 PM) and if I had to guess, their target will be Cassie next, and they will try to cause Chase to flush the idol
Bill V: (3:43:25 PM) whoever wins immunity over there could make things interesting
Mark GVSE: (3:44:43 PM) yes it could....Michael is my opponent and after his second question he has a 50/50 guess of my sin
Mark GVSE: (3:45:06 PM) once he answers my 2nd, I will be close to that, so I'm thinking of guessing as far away on the spectrum as I can
Bill V: (3:46:24 PM) to throw it?
Bill V: (3:46:39 PM) so he'd get immunity
Mark GVSE: (3:46:46 PM) I don't think it's necessarily throwing it for our team
Mark GVSE: (3:46:50 PM) but yeah, so he'd get immunity
Mark GVSE: (3:47:01 PM) but I don't want to do it if our team doesn't want to throw
Mark GVSE: (3:47:13 PM) I just want to try and get Michael immune
Bill V: (3:47:19 PM) I think AJ is scared of throwing because I htink she sees herself as a target of Ellen
Mark GVSE: (3:47:49 PM) yeah, she's not keen on it
Mark GVSE: (3:47:56 PM) she didn't say to me she thought she was a target
Mark GVSE: (3:47:59 PM) but just that she'd rather not
Bill V: (3:48:20 PM) mhm
Bill V: (3:48:40 PM) do you think they'll try to throw it again?
Mark GVSE: (3:49:00 PM) honestly yes
Bill V: (3:49:41 PM) i think i can win immunity for us
Bill V: (3:49:52 PM) if I guess lucky and Colleen does not and or tries to throw it
Bill V: (3:50:03 PM) we both got back luck with our questions
Mark GVSE: (3:52:15 PM) did you get yourself down to a 50/50?
Bill V: (3:52:26 PM) nope, 1 in 3
Bill V: (3:52:30 PM) but one of them is the one i have
Bill V: (3:52:39 PM) so i feel like we wouldn't have the same thing
Mark GVSE: (3:54:03 PM) I just got Michael's second answer back, and i have a 1 in 3 shot
Bill V: (3:56:50 PM) drat
Bill V: (3:56:57 PM) don't even good odds to throw it
Bill V: (3:57:35 PM) i would go with whatever is the most high risk/reward option
Bill V: (4:00:37 PM) gonna eat something, bbl!
Mark GVSE signed off at 5:10 PM.
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Post by henry on Jun 27, 2013 6:56:11 GMT -5
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:27:42 AM)[Offline IM sent on 06/27/13 at 06:23 AM] Hey
Bill V: (6:27:47 AM) Hey
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:30:14 AM) Good mornin sunshine
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:31:01 AM) So Cassie told me last night that many people were campaigning to have me voted off on legatu and that I likely would have gone first
Bill V: (6:32:14 AM) interesting
Bill V: (6:32:25 AM) what do you think Cassie's motivation was to say that?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:33:09 AM) Quincy told me that Cassie said I would have left on legatu, and that she was saying that I might have the idol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:33:14 AM) So I called her on it
Bill V: (6:33:20 AM) I personally felt Colleen would go first, but I had different relationships with people than Cassie did, it's hard to say who was telling to the truth to whom
Bill V: (6:33:44 AM) When were you talking to Quincy?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:33:53 AM) After he was voted off
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:15 AM) The night results were posted
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:35:10 AM) AJ spoke with me last night about all 6 of us split the vote between Ellen and Ben 3-3
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:35:33 AM) And if one wins immunity she's rather we split the vote between the unimmune one and Wendy
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:35:55 AM) Knox had made a similar suggestion the day before
Bill V: (6:35:58 AM) She told me the same
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:36:12 AM) Yeah she messaged me at work saying we have to talk
Bill V: (6:36:22 AM) mmhm
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:36:58 AM) Wendy was telling me she likes Ellen and that Ellen was saying that AJ uses personal friendships to advance
Bill V: (6:37:14 AM) Something both AJ and Ellen do
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:37:14 AM) But to be honest I kind of dont see why Sami would say that to Wendy
Bill V: (6:37:26 AM) You can't trust what Wendy says
Bill V: (6:37:29 AM) she's such a wild card
Bill V: (6:37:30 AM) like
Bill V: (6:37:40 AM) she literally makes alliances with everyone, all the time
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:37:41 AM) I think Wendy at the end of the day is more loyal to us though
Bill V: (6:37:45 AM) so the info she gets
Bill V: (6:37:47 AM) is always weird
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:37:50 AM) When she said for us to say Ben told us mark had the idol
Bill V: (6:38:24 AM) She then went to someone else, because Ben came to me and was like "I heard ppl have been saying I'm telling secrets about my old tribe"
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:38:54 AM) Mark messaged me that evening saying "have you heard anything about Ben revealing ''my secrets' as per Wendy?"
Bill V: (6:39:08 AM) She's literally one of the worst players I've ever been in a game against, she actively creates chaos but that's not her intent, she thinks she's coming up with great plans
Bill V: (6:39:19 AM) so, if I could give advice
Bill V: (6:39:26 AM) as the one person who's played a whole season with her
Bill V: (6:39:29 AM) 16 rounds of that
Bill V: (6:39:30 AM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:38 AM) I don't tell Wendy anything of importance
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:42 AM) Or anything really
Bill V: (6:39:42 AM) you have to just weed through it
Bill V: (6:39:44 AM) right
Bill V: (6:39:46 AM) thats smart
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:48 AM) I'm always afriad it wil be used against me
Bill V: (6:39:51 AM) she'll come to you when its time to vote
Bill V: (6:40:02 AM) and at that point you can choose to tell her what to do with that
Bill V: (6:40:05 AM) if you think we need it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:12 AM) But how do you feel
Bill V: (6:40:13 AM) but I do think she's honest when she says she wants ben out
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:17 AM) About splitting it with Wendy
Bill V: (6:40:17 AM) maybe taht's wrong
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:22 AM) If Ben or Ellen is immune
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:25 AM) I'm mixed on it
Bill V: (6:40:30 AM) well,
Bill V: (6:40:32 AM) I feel like
Bill V: (6:40:37 AM) you hit quite a lot of topics
Bill V: (6:40:38 AM) at me
Bill V: (6:40:41 AM) all at once
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:41 AM) She makes me nervous
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:44 AM) Sorry about that
Bill V: (6:40:44 AM) so
Bill V: (6:40:53 AM) no its, ok, just let me process
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:41:02 AM) I'm just at work all
Bill V: (6:41:07 AM) i think
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:41:15 AM) Day so this is te only time I can really catch you up on what I know
Bill V: (6:41:20 AM) sure, np
Bill V: (6:41:28 AM) so lemme just say what i think i need to say
Bill V: (6:41:38 AM) I think
Bill V: (6:41:44 AM) If I could make this observation
Bill V: (6:41:53 AM) all of these things you described are related
Bill V: (6:42:06 AM) at right now, all these topics/concerns/frustrations/fears
Bill V: (6:42:11 AM) are the devil in the details
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:42:30 AM) OMG
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:42:32 AM) It's too early
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:42:35 AM) For metaphors
Bill V: (6:42:48 AM) ok, simply put, youre focusing on the small stuff and letting it stress you out
Bill V: (6:43:00 AM) again, if i'm allowed to be bold enough to make that observation
Bill V: (6:43:04 AM) let me explain
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:43:06 AM) Oh I'm not stressed about it but I'm just sharing the puzzle pieces
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:43:11 AM) Yeah go for t
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:43:12 AM) It
Bill V: (6:43:14 AM) I think, if we look at the game, there are clearly 2 camps
Bill V: (6:43:19 AM) Team Cassie and Team Ellen
Bill V: (6:43:31 AM) both have personal friends who's alliances we aren't going to break
Bill V: (6:43:37 AM) theres also 'floaters'
Bill V: (6:43:51 AM) we're not like bad floaters like in BB, we just aren't in either camp necessarily
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:44:01 AM) Hahaha bad floaters
Bill V: (6:44:16 AM) you, me, formally quincy, michael, etc
Bill V: (6:44:19 AM) you know who
Bill V: (6:44:31 AM) both groups want to use us for their personal gain
Bill V: (6:44:51 AM) we must constantly remind ourselves of what their agenda might be when they talk strategy to us
Bill V: (6:45:08 AM) and we can't let either side, Cassie OR Ellen dictate our feelings too much
Bill V: (6:45:15 AM) or else we'll get sucked up and booted early merge
Bill V: (6:45:20 AM) when we're no longer needed
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:45:59 AM) Yes I'm in full agreeable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:46:02 AM) Agreeable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:46:05 AM) Agreeable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:46:08 AM) Fucjing phone
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:46:13 AM) Agreeance
Bill V: (6:46:49 AM) I think you were getting votes if we went to TC, but I would still like to hope Colleen was going home if we went.
Bill V: (6:46:55 AM) now, on this tribe,
Bill V: (6:47:00 AM) we're again, in the middle, i think
Bill V: (6:47:26 AM) We could be a majority alliance for Ellen or AJ
Bill V: (6:47:38 AM) by opinion, and the way we should continue to play
Bill V: (6:47:44 AM) is to never let either side get too powerful
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:47:53 AM) You're reading my mind its scary
Bill V: (6:48:06 AM) on the other tribe, Dom/Luca/Salena/Colleen control things
Bill V: (6:48:18 AM) tho I wouldn't be shocked if I was wrong, because that last vote was VERY funky
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:48:37 AM) Yeah I agree
Bill V: (6:48:38 AM) anyway, I don't see any of those 4 going home in a TC before merge unless their idoled
Bill V: (6:49:06 AM) So, we must then consider, I feel, what we can do about the numbers over on this tribe to keep things as even as possible going into the merge
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:49:12 AM) I think that Ellen isn't a leader in her alliance, I don't think she's completely aware and is bein played by her alliance mates. I think she's being used more as a figurehead target rather than being a godfather
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:49:43 AM) I think Selena is being dragged along. The real core there is dom,Ben,Colleen,luca IMO
Bill V: (6:49:47 AM) I see Ellen, Dom, and Luca as 3 co-threats. That's actually odd for me to say because I really really like Ellen and Dom
Bill V: (6:49:57 AM) oh and Ben too
Bill V: (6:50:10 AM) I like them, but I know we can't leave all of them in the game
Bill V: (6:50:17 AM) or else they'll all take each other
Bill V: (6:50:31 AM) or if they break up it won't be to join with us cuz we're too strong
Bill V: (6:50:44 AM) they'll pick up like Wendy or Michael
Bill V: (6:50:49 AM) imo
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:51:01 AM) I agree
Bill V: (6:51:19 AM) therefore, by keeping the big picture view, i don't think either of us have to get sucked into their drama
Bill V: (6:51:22 AM) cuz thats all it is, drama
Bill V: (6:51:41 AM) and instead of committing to Team Ellen or Team Cassie
Bill V: (6:51:50 AM) I feel like we should figure out just individuals that we trust to work with
Bill V: (6:51:55 AM) and eliminate their other allies
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:51:57 AM) Right now I think team Ellen is much larger
Bill V: (6:52:03 AM) so that we can truly have them
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:52:18 AM) And has overall more control. If those 6 make f12 we are in trouble at the merge
Bill V: (6:52:25 AM) right
Bill V: (6:52:29 AM) i agree
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:52:29 AM) Especially with a straggler like Wendy or mike
Bill V: (6:53:13 AM) i think youre spot on
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:53:54 AM) Anyway thanks so much for the chat I have to get ready for
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:53:55 AM) Work
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:54:05 AM) We'll chat later ill be on all evening tonight
Bill V: (6:54:41 AM) anytime, of course
Bill V: (6:54:44 AM) i'll be around more today
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Post by henry on Jun 28, 2013 7:08:10 GMT -5
[Blake] Thiago GVSE is away
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:10:07 AM) Hey
Bill V: (6:10:29 AM) Howdy
Bill V: (6:10:34 AM) how are you this morning?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:10:53 AM) Tired as hell
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:11:10 AM) I'm on cup number 2 of coffee
Bill V: (6:13:07 AM) hang in there
Bill V: (6:13:21 AM) Are you a BB fan? I'm reading up on Jeremy and Kaitlin from last night
Bill V: (6:14:53 AM) Are you headed out for work? Happy Friday!
Bill V: (6:15:04 AM) Feeling any hangover?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:17:47 AM) I like BBUK more
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:17:59 AM) I haven't seen the current US season
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:01 AM) What happened
Bill V: (6:18:08 AM) They were hookin up last night
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:10 AM) TGIF
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:13 AM) OMG haha
Bill V: (6:18:19 AM) its, like, day 4
Bill V: (6:18:23 AM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:28 AM) What'd they do
Bill V: (6:18:36 AM) unconfirmed at this point
Bill V: (6:18:38 AM) def making out
Bill V: (6:18:42 AM) then they were under the sheets
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:44 AM) Oh boring
Bill V: (6:18:48 AM) and kaitlin said "sorry dad"
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:54 AM) Lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:21:57 AM) Are you insinuating that you want me to secure our alliance in that way also
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:22:22 AM) Day 4 is long gone. I'm already behind it seems
Bill V: (6:23:37 AM) hahaha
Bill V: (6:29:24 AM) so did i miss anything interesting last night?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:38:53 AM) Sorry was showering
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:08 AM) Took some photos for you to solidify your trust
Bill V: (6:39:16 AM) No prob, I'm the one interrupting your morning routine
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:19 AM) No I went right to bed pretty much, only the Ben thing
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:55 AM) I remember like day 3 mark was like "let me tell you something *looks around* but be gentle with me"
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:05 AM) And I said "don't worry I brought lube"
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:18 AM) Oh he said be gentle with me I'm really opening myself up to you
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:28 AM) Hahahaha and it was the beginning of a beautiful partnership
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:53 AM) Last season was a lot of fun premerge. This season is more psychotic
Bill V: (6:41:30 AM) hahaha
Bill V: (6:41:50 AM) that's too funny
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:42:05 AM) And he's like married with a kid, church goer
Bill V: (6:42:08 AM) The crazy ppl we have around us now makes old Legatu feel like a beach party
Bill V: (6:42:19 AM) haha
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:42:21 AM) Yes exactly
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:42:46 AM) Wendy talks to me way less
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:43:02 AM) Which makes me nervous if Ben and Ellen get her to vote me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:43:12 AM) Seems like I'm their target
Bill V: (6:44:40 AM) If we lose, and Ben's immune
Bill V: (6:44:48 AM) do you think we should just vote for Wendy?
Bill V: (6:45:06 AM) like, not make it obvious
Bill V: (6:45:16 AM) so Ellen feels like she has to play her idol still
Bill V: (6:45:35 AM) or would u rather see something else happen?
Bill V: (6:45:42 AM) I feel so bad I'm being game-oriented right now
Bill V: (6:45:49 AM) but I'm gonna be very busy this weekend, I have company coming
Bill V: (6:46:12 AM) So I feel like if we're on the same page right now, that things will stay somewhat normal if we end up losing later
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:49:54 AM) Yeah of course
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:49:59 AM) Sorry just puttering around
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:50:18 AM) Knox had implied he wanted to do that, AJ did also
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:50:31 AM) I'm fine with that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:50:42 AM) Mark and Knox both said they like AJ
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:51:01 AM) AJ told me last night that she's grown close to mark, added one another on Facebook even
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:51:20 AM) She told me mark said he was willing to work with me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:51:39 AM) So I got the impression that she wanted the 5 of us to align
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:51:45 AM) She's beginning to doubt Cassie
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:52:02 AM) So I think she's looking else here
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:52:06 AM) Elsewhere
Bill V: (6:52:23 AM) mmhm, granted i think she also has motivation to press the issue considering she's no longer immune
Bill V: (6:52:24 AM) haha
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:52:34 AM) This was before ic results
Bill V: (6:52:36 AM) AJ has an amazin ability to get everyone to like her
Bill V: (6:52:49 AM) I mean, I think everyone on the tribe is fine
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:52:56 AM) Yeah she really does
Bill V: (6:53:00 AM) so I'm good going with wherever the numbers are
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:53:31 AM) I think if Ben was gone we would have options
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:53:50 AM) Even if Wendy was gone it would eliminate the free radical
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:54:41 AM) I asked mark about Wendy the other day and asked if he was close with her given that they voted together during the Gloria vote
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:54:58 AM) And he said he thought so but Wendy has been speaking to Ellen a lot and went from bashing her to
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:55:07 AM) Saying she loved her
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:56:27 AM) I would rather have Wendy in over Ben/Ellen though because I don't see her betraying you at least
Bill V: (6:57:01 AM) yeah, i mean i think that makes sense, tho u have more faith in her than I do
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:57:13 AM) Well I know her less though right
Bill V: (6:57:42 AM) like, I don't think she'd gun for me in this vote, but the thing you gotta watch for is her doing something that isn't part of the plan, hence causing my demise soon after at the hands of the others she helped
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:57:42 AM) I have zero experience with this player so I'd rather take your judgment
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:58:02 AM) Well if Ben or Ellen is immune and we lose
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:58:10 AM) You'd be cool with splitting Wendy
Bill V: (6:58:10 AM) mhm
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:58:18 AM) Do you think that's a better route
Bill V: (6:58:37 AM) The tricky part of that split is going to be what we'll tell Wendy
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:58:53 AM) My biggest worry is we split 3-3 Ellen/Ben
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:58:57 AM) And then she switches from
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:00 AM) Her vote
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:04 AM) Tells Ellen and Ben
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:06 AM) They idol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:09 AM) The person with 3 votes
Bill V: (6:59:10 AM) well we can't vote for Ben if he has immunity
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:15 AM) And one of us goes 3-2-0
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:28 AM) But even if neither of them do
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:33 AM) Wendy could still
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:59:37 AM) Take us out with her vote
Bill V: (7:00:52 AM) no matter what we're gonna have to guess right
Bill V: (7:00:58 AM) on who Ellen will play the idol on
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:01:02 AM) I think
Bill V: (7:01:04 AM) unless we trust wendy
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:01:04 AM) She would do
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:01:05 AM) Herself
Bill V: (7:01:09 AM) I think so too
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:01:09 AM) She's not a risk taker unless
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:01:11 AM) She's sure
Bill V: (7:01:36 AM) but Wendy's gonna want to know who to vote for
Bill V: (7:01:43 AM) and if Ben's immune
Bill V: (7:01:54 AM) I feel like I can't just be like we'll all just vote Ellen
Bill V: (7:01:58 AM) cuz she knows Ellen has the idol
Bill V: (7:02:25 AM) so i mean i guess we'll see what road that goes down
Bill V: (7:02:36 AM) I guess I'll let her lead that convo and see what she says?
Bill V: (7:02:54 AM) but, whatever I tell her I'm ok going with, I think our plan is the best
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:02:56 AM) Yeah I guess
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:03:05 AM) I think that's our only option
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:03:11 AM) Let her take the reigns
Bill V: (7:03:26 AM) like, I hate to say it, but I think if she chooses someone out of the 5 of us
Bill V: (7:03:31 AM) she might say to vote for you
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:03:37 AM) I think
Bill V: (7:03:38 AM) I mean, maybe not, her mood always changes
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:03:38 AM) So too
Bill V: (7:03:45 AM) but if she does say you
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:03:48 AM) Because Ellen/Ben want me off
Bill V: (7:03:50 AM) I don't want you to feel concerned
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:04:00 AM) Well I'm always concerned
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:04:16 AM) I don't have an idol for protection
Bill V: (7:04:18 AM) I'll keep my ears open with the other 4, but I don't think any want you out
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:04:29 AM) I hope not
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:04:31 AM) If I had an idol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:04:36 AM) It would be played
Bill V: (7:04:51 AM) well, having an idol is always ideal, haha
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:05:12 AM) AJ told me she knows chase/Cassie have it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:05:17 AM) But that she thought for some time
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:05:19 AM) That I did
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:05:28 AM) So I don't think she's
Bill V: (7:05:30 AM) Well, like I said I initially thought you did as well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:05:31 AM) Worried about that
Bill V: (7:05:38 AM) but I think Chase has it
Bill V: (7:05:54 AM) which again, why the fuck didn't he play it at the last TC
Bill V: (7:05:56 AM) but, whatever
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:05:56 AM) Fine with me I he does
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:06:03 AM) I hope they lose and things go crazy there
Bill V: (7:06:08 AM) ^
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:06:09 AM) Let it play out on that tribe
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:06:21 AM) Let us build something over here and bide us time
Bill V: (7:06:26 AM) mhm
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:06:58 AM) Although Knox told me flat out he's hesitant working with me and can't trust me after last season
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:07:01 AM) Hey I gotta run
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:07:06 AM) But he doesn't trust Wendy she makes him
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:07:07 AM) Nervous
Bill V: (7:07:19 AM) ok, well idk when we'll talk next, PM if needed
Bill V: (7:07:28 AM) but don't worry about anything, I think we'll be fine
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:07:35 AM) We wil see!
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