Episode 3 Conversations

[henry]

Bill V: (4:56:00 PM) Hey Chase
Chase Ingmen: (4:56:35 PM) Hey
Chase Ingmen: (4:56:37 PM) How are you?
Bill V: (4:58:11 PM) not bad, just crossing things off the to do list today
Bill V: (4:58:13 PM) how are you?
Chase Ingmen: (4:58:19 PM) I'm good
Chase Ingmen: (4:58:32 PM) Worked this morning and will probably go for a run before too long
Bill V: (5:02:15 PM) yeah, i need to actually do that today too
Bill V: (5:02:29 PM) motivate me to do that in a lil bit, ok?
Chase Ingmen: (5:02:36 PM) Will do
Chase Ingmen: (5:02:47 PM) Where do you run in Chicago?
Bill V: (5:03:12 PM) i live right by the lake
Bill V: (5:03:20 PM) theres a trail all up and down the lake
Chase Ingmen: (5:03:36 PM) That's way nice
Bill V: (5:03:41 PM) its very pretty
Chase Ingmen: (5:03:52 PM) SLC has foothills to run in that get you up above the city
Chase Ingmen: (5:03:57 PM) Very pretty as well
Bill V: (5:03:58 PM) cool
Chase Ingmen: (5:04:42 PM) So, can we talk some game quick?
Bill V: (5:05:28 PM) sure
Bill V: (5:05:32 PM) whats crackin
Chase Ingmen: (5:05:41 PM) I think Thiago has the idol...
Chase Ingmen: (5:05:50 PM) I got in and it was gone
Bill V: (5:05:57 PM) oh ok, whats the password?
Chase Ingmen: (5:05:57 PM) But not that long before I got in
Bill V: (5:06:10 PM) i couldn't fucking get it this morning, he was on and probing me hardcore for clues
Chase Ingmen: (5:06:17 PM) cainmurdersabel
Bill V: (5:06:23 PM) UGH i was all around it
Chase Ingmen: (5:06:30 PM) When I got in, it was only him and AJ online
Chase Ingmen: (5:06:34 PM) And I doubt AJ found it
Bill V: (5:07:11 PM) yeah, def didn't happen
Bill V: (5:07:23 PM) He was working on it at about, oh idk, 7 or 8am this morning
Bill V: (5:07:28 PM) before he went to work
Bill V: (5:07:37 PM) and I know he was lying to me about what he knew about it
Bill V: (5:07:43 PM) he was just trying to fish me for clues
Chase Ingmen: (5:08:10 PM) Ugh
Chase Ingmen: (5:08:23 PM) I hope he didn't get it
Chase Ingmen: (5:08:35 PM) But I don't really want anyone else to have it either. haha
Bill V: (5:08:43 PM) Well, out of the ppl on our tribe
Bill V: (5:08:56 PM) I would only suspect me, you, Cassie and Thaigo
Chase Ingmen: (5:09:03 PM) Same
Chase Ingmen: (5:09:09 PM) Quincy is a maybe
Chase Ingmen: (5:09:14 PM) Colleen I don't think would
Bill V: (5:09:18 PM) but i haven't seen Quincy on
Chase Ingmen: (5:09:23 PM) Me neither
Bill V: (5:09:41 PM) Thaigo's been on the board in invs when he's been idol hunting
Chase Ingmen: (5:09:50 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (5:09:52 PM) Can you do that?
Bill V: (5:10:05 PM) yeah, u can change the settings so that u appear invs
Bill V: (5:10:09 PM) but if youre the only person doing it
Bill V: (5:10:15 PM) its not really effective
Chase Ingmen: (5:10:28 PM) I didn't even know you could do that...
Chase Ingmen: (5:10:36 PM) And I've been looking...
Chase Ingmen: (5:10:47 PM) Hopefully it doesn't make me look terrible
Bill V: (5:10:57 PM) naw, i don't think so on this tribe
Bill V: (5:11:03 PM) honestly, i just wanted it found
Bill V: (5:11:07 PM) like, i don't even care that i don't have it
Bill V: (5:11:12 PM) i was just being maddened by the puzzle
Chase Ingmen: (5:11:19 PM) It was tough
Chase Ingmen: (5:11:25 PM) Morgan messed up one of the letters too
Chase Ingmen: (5:11:32 PM) He put a K instead of M
Bill V: (5:11:58 PM) where?
Chase Ingmen: (5:12:51 PM)
acddeghks

Bill V: (5:13:19 PM) yeah, that was annoying cuz it didn't make anything
Chase Ingmen: (5:13:42 PM) It was supposed to be cainkillsabel
Chase Ingmen: (5:13:54 PM) to use the a,c, and k
Bill V: (5:14:42 PM) That's kind of annoying that there was a mistake
Bill V: (5:14:47 PM) because I had all the clues
Bill V: (5:14:55 PM) and knew it had something to do with that
Bill V: (5:15:17 PM) but then those letters couldn't make anything
Chase Ingmen: (5:15:39 PM) There are three letters for each tribe
Chase Ingmen: (5:16:06 PM) And each is just a three word summary of the story
Bill V: (5:16:08 PM) haha things no one would ever figure out
Bill V: (5:16:19 PM) ah well, its fine
Chase Ingmen: (5:16:27 PM) Knox told me theirs was estherdefeatshaman
Chase Ingmen: (5:16:44 PM) He said he didn't get theirs though
Bill V: (5:16:52 PM) I" sure ellen prolly got it
Chase Ingmen: (5:17:05 PM) I guess Perry has been looking all day
Chase Ingmen: (5:17:09 PM) And Luca
Bill V: (5:17:28 PM) who's getting voted out over ther?
Bill V: (5:17:30 PM) e?
Bill V: (5:17:39 PM) not to interrupt
Bill V: (5:17:46 PM) but should we tell AJ the idol was found?
Bill V: (5:18:08 PM) AJ GVSE: (5:13:13 PM) Hey!
Bill V: (5:15:20 PM) hey AJ
Bill V: (5:15:24 PM) whats crack a lackin
AJ GVSE: (5:15:32 PM) i think i found an idol clue!
Bill V: (5:17:34 PM) oh yea?
Bill V: (5:18:13 PM) she just IM'd me that
Bill V: (5:19:01 PM) thoughts?
Bill V: (5:19:07 PM) it was you that cracked it
Bill V: (5:19:15 PM) so i don't want to say anything if you don't want me to say anything
Chase Ingmen: (5:19:23 PM) I'll tell her now
Chase Ingmen: (5:19:44 PM) No point in leaving her searching
Bill V: (5:19:59 PM) right
Chase Ingmen: (5:21:21 PM) k
Chase Ingmen: (5:21:23 PM) Told her
Bill V: (5:21:36 PM) kk
Chase Ingmen: (5:21:58 PM) People seem to think this challenge is actually a swap
Chase Ingmen: (5:22:01 PM) Do you think so?
Bill V: (5:23:20 PM) hmm, i mean it certainly crossed my mind
Bill V: (5:24:06 PM) which, if such was the case, I'm stuck with Colleen which is less than ideal
Chase Ingmen: (5:26:17 PM) Better than Thiago...
Bill V: (5:27:11 PM) I'm not really sure how it'd work
Bill V: (5:27:31 PM) would he go then i guess with the other left over person from eduro
Bill V: (5:27:53 PM) that tribe would suck cuz you'd have 3 eduro ppl potentially on it
Chase Ingmen: (5:28:52 PM) I dunno
Chase Ingmen: (5:28:58 PM) I think we will have three on a tribe
Bill V: (5:29:43 PM) maybe
Bill V: (5:30:27 PM) that makes sense, i guess
Bill V: (5:31:10 PM) what time did u break into the idol forum around?
Chase Ingmen: (5:32:15 PM) Morgan had edited the "the Idol has been found" think like 30 minutes before I got in
Chase Ingmen: (5:32:23 PM) Not sure what time. An hour ago?
Chase Ingmen: (5:32:33 PM) I lose track
Bill V: (5:32:35 PM) well, someone could have broken it awhile before that and morgan only then noticed
Bill V: (5:32:48 PM) tho, he was on this morning
Chase Ingmen: (5:32:56 PM) He's been on all day
Chase Ingmen: (5:33:00 PM) And is pretty quick
Bill V: (5:33:00 PM) after I talked to Thaigo
Chase Ingmen: (5:33:10 PM) I mean, it's possible
Bill V: (5:33:11 PM) and Thaigo is at work
Chase Ingmen: (5:33:32 PM) He told me he is studying
Bill V: (5:34:00 PM) oh he's home?
Bill V: (5:34:22 PM) oh, yep, he's here
Chase Ingmen: (5:34:53 PM) Yup
Bill V: (5:36:40 PM) well, that's pretty obvious then that it would be either you or Thaigo who has the idol (or AJ, lol)
Chase Ingmen: (5:38:30 PM) Has Thiago said anything to you about it?
Chase Ingmen: (5:38:36 PM) He only small talks with me
Bill V: (5:40:19 PM) he's talking to me about the idol right now
Bill V: (5:40:26 PM) he's either slow playing me or really doesn't know
Bill V: (5:40:49 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:56 PM) what happens to our idol then?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:38:09 PM) the clues are impossible
Bill V: (5:38:31 PM) I'm totally stuck
Bill V: (5:41:07 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:56 PM) what happens to our idol then?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:38:09 PM) the clues are impossible
Bill V: (5:38:31 PM) I'm totally stuck
Bill V: (5:41:11 PM) oops
Bill V: (5:41:27 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:39:59 PM) there's an idol clue thread wtf
Bill V: (5:40:02 PM) and highlight everything
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:06 PM) omg
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:10 PM) is that the one
Bill V: (5:41:40 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:52 PM) OMG
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:55 PM) this is amazing
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:41:03 PM) he snuck them in a thread called idol clues
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:41:20 PM) that's kind of genius
Chase Ingmen: (5:42:01 PM) He has been searching for idol clues all day and just found that?
Chase Ingmen: (5:42:13 PM) I think he is slow playing you
Bill V: (5:42:16 PM) and only just found the mp3 this morning
Bill V: (5:42:17 PM) totally
Bill V: (5:42:20 PM) but i mean what can i do
Chase Ingmen: (5:42:27 PM) Go along with it
Bill V: (5:42:31 PM) i'm not gonna get confrontational about it
Chase Ingmen: (5:43:39 PM) No reason to
Chase Ingmen: (5:43:42 PM) Let it play out
Chase Ingmen: (5:43:53 PM) If he doesn't have it, then I have no idea
Bill V: (5:44:00 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:46 PM) i know theres a story in the bible about someone killing their brother
Bill V: (5:43:52 PM) right
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:54 PM) i dont remember what it was though
Bill V: (5:44:06 PM) ...
Chase Ingmen: (5:44:11 PM) Quincy and Cassie haven't been around from what I've seen
Chase Ingmen: (5:44:12 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (5:44:14 PM) omg
Chase Ingmen: (5:44:36 PM) Bill V: (5:43:52 PM) right
Chase Ingmen: (5:44:41 PM) That's my favorite part
Bill V: (5:44:57 PM) how much do u want to bet
Bill V: (5:45:02 PM) he suddenly gets the password
Bill V: (5:45:05 PM) in the next 30 minutes
Bill V: (5:45:24 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:44:45 PM) okay katy perry lyrics mentions esther
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:44:49 PM) she's in the bible
Chase Ingmen: (5:45:49 PM) >_>
Chase Ingmen: (5:46:00 PM) I mean, c'mon
Chase Ingmen: (5:47:57 PM) He's completely stopped talking to me...
Bill V: (5:48:14 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:47:50 PM) hallelujah says David
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:47:59 PM) was he an apostle?
Chase Ingmen: (5:48:49 PM) Are you even responding to these?
Bill V: (5:49:41 PM) lol yes
Chase Ingmen: (5:50:06 PM) I'm glad he's doing this to you and not me...
Bill V: (5:50:42 PM) Bill V: (5:50:00 PM) <- grew up in a religious home
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:50:02 PM) maybe that's her pair
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:50:04 PM) yeah same
Bill V: (5:50:24 PM) uhh idr
Bill V: (5:50:35 PM) then how did u forget cain and abel, haha
Chase Ingmen: (5:51:05 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (5:51:18 PM) What did you grow up as?
Chase Ingmen: (5:51:24 PM) My family is Lutheran
Bill V: (5:51:38 PM) United Bretheren
Chase Ingmen: (5:51:48 PM) What is that?
Bill V: (5:51:54 PM) ummm i guess its close to protestant? idk it was pretty non-demoniational
Chase Ingmen: (5:52:06 PM) I've never heard of it
Chase Ingmen: (5:52:17 PM) Were you pretty religious?
Bill V: (5:55:36 PM) umm actually yeah
Bill V: (5:55:42 PM) it was pretty much all i knew
Bill V: (5:55:58 PM) but i'm not anymore, which causes huge problems with the fam
Bill V: (5:56:03 PM) but, such is life
Chase Ingmen: (5:56:24 PM) ehhh
Chase Ingmen: (5:56:31 PM) My parents don't know yet
Chase Ingmen: (5:56:35 PM) Soooo
Chase Ingmen: (5:56:42 PM) No huge problems yet
Bill V: (5:57:43 PM) [Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:12 PM) ok what about th eletters
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:19 PM) acddeghks
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:28 PM) ac abel cain
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:33 PM) omg
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:35 PM) esther
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:36 PM) haman
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:38 PM) david
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:39 PM) goliath
Bill V: (5:58:14 PM) i understand
Bill V: (5:58:18 PM) with you not coming out
Bill V: (5:58:27 PM) i didn't until about a year ago or so
Bill V: (5:58:31 PM) and they don't know i live with greg
Chase Ingmen: (5:59:23 PM) Yeah, it'll happen with time
Chase Ingmen: (5:59:25 PM) and lmao
Chase Ingmen: (5:59:33 PM) He's gonna get it soon
Bill V: (5:59:39 PM) i'm guessing you feel they won't be supportive
Chase Ingmen: (5:59:48 PM) I'm not sure...
Chase Ingmen: (5:59:52 PM) They could go either way
Chase Ingmen: (6:00:04 PM) I know they'll be disappointed at the very least
Bill V: (6:00:50 PM) well, i hope for your sake, that when it happens, they come around
Bill V: (6:00:54 PM) even if it isn't right away
Chase Ingmen: (6:01:00 PM) Me too
Chase Ingmen: (6:01:12 PM) I think they will though
Chase Ingmen: (6:01:20 PM) I'm just not ready to face that yet
Bill V: (6:01:25 PM) youre too awesome for them to be upset with you for too long
Chase Ingmen: (6:01:35 PM) lol thanks!
Bill V: (6:01:51 PM) I'll admit that I was selfish in my coming out process, that I didn't attempt to do so until i wasn't completely dependent on my mom
Chase Ingmen: (6:02:12 PM) That's exactly what I'm doing...
Bill V: (6:02:35 PM) I get that, I know some ppl get self-righteous about waiting
Bill V: (6:02:39 PM) but its scary
Bill V: (6:02:49 PM) i think as ORG'ers who are strategists
Bill V: (6:02:53 PM) we always plan for the worst
Bill V: (6:03:04 PM) and then are happy if something better than that happens
Chase Ingmen: (6:03:19 PM) I think that's the benefit of being a pessemist
Bill V: (6:03:24 PM) lol
Chase Ingmen: (6:04:00 PM) Just sayin!
Chase Ingmen: (6:20:46 PM) Any update from him?
Bill V: (6:20:58 PM) the idol talk trailed off
Bill V: (6:21:07 PM) but see if in the next lil bit
Bill V: (6:21:10 PM) if he IMs you
Bill V: (6:21:18 PM) we're talking mroe now about who knows who on each tribe
Chase Ingmen: (6:21:21 PM) He stopped IMing me again
Chase Ingmen: (6:21:31 PM) I tried to reboot our convo
Chase Ingmen: (6:21:33 PM)
Bill V: (6:23:42 PM) waaah
Bill V: (6:24:06 PM) and just to double check, in case he springs on me that he found it
Bill V: (6:24:10 PM) you don't have it, right?
Chase Ingmen: (6:24:23 PM) He's supposed to be so social, and I feel like we have a lot in common
Chase Ingmen: (6:24:32 PM) And no
Chase Ingmen: (6:24:41 PM) Do you think I have it?
Bill V: (6:25:58 PM) i mean, just making sure
Bill V: (6:26:04 PM) i'm not going to challenge whatever he tells me
Bill V: (6:26:33 PM) and if u said that it was just you, him, and AJ on
Bill V: (6:26:39 PM) and we're sure its not AJ
Bill V: (6:26:54 PM) then I just want to make sure I know what to expect from him
Chase Ingmen: (6:27:47 PM) I mean, unless somebody got it without getting on AIM, it's gotta be him
Bill V: (6:28:07 PM) lets check log in times
Bill V: (6:28:14 PM) whens the last time everyone's been online
Chase Ingmen: (6:28:41 PM) Cassie 5:53
Chase Ingmen: (6:29:14 PM) Colleen was 7:38 am
Chase Ingmen: (6:29:15 PM) So no
Chase Ingmen: (6:29:30 PM) I don't know if Cassie lines up or not
Bill V: (6:29:34 PM) Cassie 5:53pm?
Chase Ingmen: (6:29:36 PM) yup
Bill V: (6:29:43 PM) doesn't rule him in or out
Bill V: (6:29:55 PM) because he could have logged in, got the idol, logged out
Chase Ingmen: (6:29:56 PM) 3:45 was the edit
Bill V: (6:29:59 PM) and has since logged back in
Chase Ingmen: (6:30:01 PM) Definitely doesn't rule her out
Bill V: (6:30:07 PM) Colleen is out
Chase Ingmen: (6:30:37 PM) Quincy 8:26 am
Chase Ingmen: (6:30:51 PM) I haven't seen Cassie on aim at all since I've been home
Chase Ingmen: (6:31:02 PM) I got home at like 3 est
Bill V: (6:35:08 PM) hmm
Bill V: (6:43:54 PM) brb
Chase Ingmen: (7:21:28 PM) So, I talked to Justin, and it sounds like there is almost no way for the catchers to win this challenge...
Chase Ingmen: (7:21:36 PM) To get immunity
Bill V: (7:27:36 PM) well, unless they catch all the balls
Chase Ingmen: (7:30:15 PM) But you can just keep throwing
Chase Ingmen: (7:30:28 PM) The only one that you have a minute to throw is the 9 ball
Bill V: (7:39:30 PM) he ignored my questions
Bill V: (7:39:43 PM) so can one throw, like, 80 9 balls in a one minute span
Bill V: (7:39:49 PM) i know they gotta be in seperate posts
Chase Ingmen: (7:40:19 PM) Yeah
Chase Ingmen: (7:40:29 PM) And then you have an hour to throw 8s
Chase Ingmen: (7:40:39 PM) Then another hour to throw 7s
Chase Ingmen: (7:40:45 PM) Then another hour to throw 6s
Chase Ingmen: (7:40:53 PM) No way could ANYONE catch all those
Bill V: (7:41:09 PM) depends, i mean, if you know what youre getting into
Bill V: (7:41:15 PM) you could have all the posts set up and ready to go
Chase Ingmen: (7:42:16 PM) Yeah, but still...
Bill V: (7:43:45 PM) yeah
Bill V: (7:43:51 PM) idk i think i'm gonna let Colleen throw
Bill V: (7:44:00 PM) because I know I'll have time to catch them
Chase Ingmen: (7:44:05 PM) mmhmm
Bill V: (7:44:05 PM) howmanyever i can
Chase Ingmen: (7:44:12 PM) I think the same thing
Chase Ingmen: (7:44:21 PM) I think I'll be a better catcher than AJ
Chase Ingmen: (7:44:26 PM) No pun intended...
Bill V: (7:44:29 PM) lol
Chase Ingmen: (7:46:20 PM) oops
Bill V: (7:46:27 PM) wut?
Chase Ingmen: (7:46:40 PM) Just commenting on the catcher thing
Bill V: (7:46:47 PM) oh, HAHAHA
Bill V: (7:46:51 PM) sorry, just got it
Chase Ingmen: (7:47:03 PM) It wasn't delivered well
Chase Ingmen: (7:47:07 PM) No worries. haha
Bill V: (7:47:10 PM) naw, i'm distracted
Bill V: (7:47:17 PM) my mind wasn't in the gutter it usually calls home
Chase Ingmen: (7:47:42 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (7:47:56 PM) So did Thiago just straight up ignore you?
Bill V: (7:49:03 PM) about what?
Bill V: (7:49:06 PM) he's talking to me
Chase Ingmen: (7:49:29 PM) You said he ignored your questions
Chase Ingmen: (7:49:38 PM) I thought that was about him
Bill V: (7:49:53 PM) no
Bill V: (7:49:56 PM) justin was ignoring me
Chase Ingmen: (7:49:59 PM) ohhh
Bill V: (7:50:01 PM) lol
Chase Ingmen: (7:50:04 PM) whoops
Chase Ingmen: (7:50:06 PM) ok
Bill V: (7:50:14 PM) thaigo is being really paranoid, tho
Chase Ingmen: (7:50:27 PM) Howso?
Bill V: (7:51:02 PM) i think he just wants someone to be in an alliance with
Bill V: (7:51:16 PM) he's paranoid that since no one is really talking about a boot to him
Bill V: (7:51:21 PM) that he's gonna be the boot
Chase Ingmen: (7:51:41 PM) I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK TO HIM ALL DAY AND HE IGNORES ME
Chase Ingmen: (7:51:44 PM) sorry
Bill V: (7:52:21 PM) lolol
Bill V: (7:52:30 PM) i don't know what to tell ya
Bill V: (7:52:57 PM) i think if you look at the group
Bill V: (7:53:16 PM) he's naturally, i think, drawn maybe to telling me those concerns
Bill V: (7:53:23 PM) because no one else from my season is on the tribe
Chase Ingmen: (7:53:45 PM) And Quincy is never around...
Chase Ingmen: (7:53:50 PM) It makes sense
Bill V: (7:53:52 PM) but i don't want whatever he says to me to make you feel like "oh Henry is gonna go work with Thaigo"
Bill V: (7:54:02 PM) I'm really just trying to keep his level of paranoia down
Bill V: (7:54:17 PM) cuz i feel like if i ignore it
Bill V: (7:54:25 PM) he'll really go and start meddling
Chase Ingmen: (7:54:34 PM) No, I know
Chase Ingmen: (7:55:46 PM) I haven't even thought you guys would end up working together. Especially with you showing me everything he was saying. haha
Bill V: (7:56:28 PM) haha, well i mean i knew you knew the forum was open
Bill V: (7:56:38 PM) and so i just needed someone to share that with
Bill V: (7:56:40 PM) speaking of
Bill V: (7:56:47 PM) If Cassie comes to me about idol talk
Bill V: (7:56:56 PM) what would you like me to share?
Chase Ingmen: (7:57:19 PM) I have no idea
Chase Ingmen: (7:57:24 PM) I don't feel like she has it
Chase Ingmen: (7:57:34 PM) But should I say something to her?
Bill V: (7:59:29 PM) well, i mean
Bill V: (7:59:44 PM) I didn't feel like I had the right to open the conversation with her that the pw had been found
Bill V: (7:59:48 PM) since you were the one to find it
Bill V: (7:59:52 PM) thats your info to share
Bill V: (8:00:03 PM) but like if she tries to talk about clues to me
Bill V: (8:00:22 PM) i want to know how u feel, should i go along with the chase with her or tell her i know the pw
Chase Ingmen: (8:02:39 PM) Maybe I should just talk to her and say that I think Thiago found it
Chase Ingmen: (8:02:42 PM) Be straight up
Chase Ingmen: (8:02:47 PM) No point in lying to her
Chase Ingmen: (8:03:02 PM) And if she talks to you first, just say that
Chase Ingmen: (8:03:10 PM) I'll be upfront with her
Chase Ingmen: (8:03:21 PM) That's probably the best way to gauge her reaction
Bill V: (8:04:20 PM) ok
Bill V: (8:04:25 PM) i just wanted to kinda get your permission
Bill V: (8:04:27 PM) before doing that
Bill V: (8:04:40 PM) and can i say that you found the pw
Bill V: (8:04:47 PM) and that you told me just to tip me off about thaigo?
Chase Ingmen: (8:05:44 PM) Yeah, I think that's fine
Bill V: (8:06:56 PM) mmkay
Bill V: (8:07:00 PM) just wanted to be on the same page
Chase Ingmen: (8:07:19 PM) I think it'll be fine
Chase Ingmen: (8:27:20 PM) You there still?
Bill V: (8:28:41 PM) yup
Bill V: (8:28:46 PM) just going through mail
Chase Ingmen: (8:29:15 PM) Alright, I've gotta talk to you for a little bit
Bill V: (8:30:57 PM) sure
Chase Ingmen: (8:31:48 PM) I've gotta apologize to you. I wanted to come into this game and be some master strategist, and I'm clearly not cut out for it. I do have the idol, and I wanted to keep it to myself because telling others about the idol is dumb, right? So I lied to you to try and build your trust, and right now I can just seeing in blow up in my face. You're the only person I'm telling about this because I do want to work with you and I don't want you to not trust me. I'm really sorry
Bill V: (8:32:05 PM) its not a problem
Bill V: (8:32:22 PM) and don't worry, i reallly won't tell anyone
Chase Ingmen: (8:32:36 PM) I hope this doesn't screw up our relationship because I do really want to work with you
Bill V: (8:32:51 PM) tho i wouldn't of pushed thaigo like i did today had i known, so i think that's something we're gonna have to deal with if his paranoia continues to grow
Bill V: (8:32:59 PM) but its ok, and i still trust you
Chase Ingmen: (8:33:11 PM) Yeah I know
Chase Ingmen: (8:33:15 PM) That's why I feel so bad
Bill V: (8:33:15 PM) no one wants to ever tell ppl about the idol
Bill V: (8:33:16 PM) i get that
Chase Ingmen: (8:33:58 PM) I'm just new to these game and always end up digging my own grave, so I'm trying to avoid that this time
Bill V: (8:34:08 PM) its fine, don't worry
Bill V: (8:34:11 PM) tho i do have one question
Chase Ingmen: (8:34:24 PM) Anything
Bill V: (8:34:46 PM) Did someone on another tribe give you the forumla the get it, or did you really get it all on your own?
Bill V: (8:34:55 PM) i wouldn't ask if I didn't think it was important
Bill V: (8:35:10 PM) because i found that password to be very counter-intuitive, considering the clues we had were wrong
Chase Ingmen: (8:35:42 PM) I worked on it with Dominic, and he figured out the names thing
Chase Ingmen: (8:35:47 PM) He doesn't know I have it though
Chase Ingmen: (8:35:56 PM) I got the last part on my own
Bill V: (8:36:10 PM) mmkay, yeah i figured you did that
Bill V: (8:36:18 PM) and thats cool
Bill V: (8:36:25 PM) and i like dominic
Bill V: (8:36:41 PM) i figured
Bill V: (8:36:45 PM) once one person figured it out
Bill V: (8:36:53 PM) they would tell the ppl on the other tribes whom they trusted
Bill V: (8:37:13 PM) and it'd go quickly, the power of 3 idols to ppl who generally had positive feelings toward each other
Chase Ingmen: (8:38:37 PM) Yeah, I don't know if he is the one that got it or not over there because it made more sense once I got the names plugged in
Chase Ingmen: (8:38:50 PM) But I'd assume that's how it spread
Chase Ingmen: (8:38:56 PM) Knox came to me with it
Chase Ingmen: (8:39:07 PM) I don't see Dominic telling him
Chase Ingmen: (8:39:09 PM) But I dunno
Bill V: (8:39:49 PM) oh so knox found it over there?
Chase Ingmen: (8:39:52 PM) no
Bill V: (8:39:53 PM) i wouldn't have guessed
Chase Ingmen: (8:40:01 PM) He told me it was gone when he got in
Bill V: (8:40:08 PM) hmm, possibly true
Bill V: (8:40:13 PM) I bet Ellen got it, tbh
Chase Ingmen: (8:40:20 PM) Or Luca
Bill V: (8:40:21 PM) or maybe Luca
Chase Ingmen: (8:40:23 PM) He was looking hard
Bill V: (8:40:23 PM) ya
Chase Ingmen: (8:40:53 PM) Well, I feel a lot better right now
Chase Ingmen: (8:40:58 PM) Thanks for being cool about it
Chase Ingmen: (8:41:32 PM) And again, sorry you had to lie to Thiago like that :/
Bill V: (8:42:10 PM) its ok, i think i was gonna have to lie to him regardless
Bill V: (8:42:14 PM) if we ever do a TC
Bill V: (8:42:30 PM) would it be possible for me to see the idol? I'm just curious
Chase Ingmen: (8:43:04 PM) Yeah, I can show you
Chase Ingmen: (8:43:26 PM) i.imgur.com/hJjD1nG.png
Bill V: (8:43:38 PM) that's fun
Bill V: (8:43:39 PM) lol
Chase Ingmen: (8:44:20 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (8:44:21 PM) yup
Chase Ingmen: (8:44:26 PM) So
Chase Ingmen: (8:44:45 PM) Can we make an official alliance since I'm not really sure if we did that earlier?
Bill V: (8:45:13 PM) ah, well i was already treating it as such
Chase Ingmen: (8:45:23 PM) k. I wasn't sure. haha
Bill V: (8:45:42 PM) haha, np
Chase Ingmen: (8:46:47 PM) Thanks
Chase Ingmen: (8:47:23 PM) So can we have a real strategy talk then?
Bill V: (8:47:29 PM) sure
Bill V: (8:47:37 PM) but i'm gonna cook
Bill V: (8:47:40 PM) while we do it
Bill V: (8:47:44 PM) if thats ok
Chase Ingmen: (8:47:52 PM) Did you go for your run!?
Bill V: (8:47:54 PM) we've had a busy evening, i haven't eaten yet
Chase Ingmen: (8:47:54 PM) I didn't...
Bill V: (8:48:05 PM) if i didn't eat, i sure as hell didn't run
Chase Ingmen: (8:48:10 PM) lol
Chase Ingmen: (8:48:25 PM) I ate like half a serving of pasta and some oreos
Chase Ingmen: (8:48:35 PM) "running fuel"
Bill V: (8:48:47 PM) lol
Bill V: (8:48:53 PM) idk what i want
Bill V: (8:48:59 PM) but anyway
Bill V: (8:49:28 PM) what was on your mind?
Chase Ingmen: (8:50:03 PM) I just want to talk about where to go from here
Chase Ingmen: (8:50:41 PM) Like if we lose what should we do?
Bill V: (8:51:08 PM) i keep going back n forth on this issue
Chase Ingmen: (8:51:25 PM) I kinda put us in a hairy spot
Chase Ingmen: (8:51:29 PM) Or me
Chase Ingmen: (8:51:32 PM) Not really you
Bill V: (8:51:37 PM) obviously not voting off you
Bill V: (8:51:42 PM) and i don't wanna vote for AJ
Bill V: (8:51:51 PM) and voting Quincy feels like a waste
Bill V: (8:51:54 PM) at this point
Bill V: (8:52:31 PM) I feel like I'd want to vote for Thaigo or Colleen, but i also keep my eye on Cassie
Chase Ingmen: (8:52:54 PM) I agree with all of those things
Chase Ingmen: (8:53:08 PM) I don't think Colleen would go for me
Chase Ingmen: (8:53:19 PM) And if Cassie was gone, she'd probably side with us
Chase Ingmen: (8:53:38 PM) I don't think she has many friends in the game other than Cassie, Ellen, and Ben
Bill V: (8:53:58 PM) My worry about voting off Cassie is alienating AJ
Bill V: (8:54:20 PM) she's someone who takes loyalty very seriously, i feel
Chase Ingmen: (8:54:28 PM) Cassie did vote off AJ last time...
Chase Ingmen: (8:54:30 PM) I dunno
Bill V: (8:54:39 PM) maybe
Chase Ingmen: (8:54:43 PM) She is VERY loyal though
Bill V: (8:55:23 PM) I feel like the one person who offers me nothing
Bill V: (8:55:26 PM) is Colleen
Bill V: (8:55:33 PM) but as a season 3 person you might have a different take on that
Chase Ingmen: (8:55:45 PM) See
Chase Ingmen: (8:55:55 PM) Colleen doesn't really offer much other than loyalty
Chase Ingmen: (8:56:03 PM) She's quiet so she doesn't make many connections
Chase Ingmen: (8:56:12 PM) So she stays loyal with who she has
Bill V: (8:56:33 PM) good point
Chase Ingmen: (8:56:40 PM) The only real move she made in season 3 was voting out Ellen
Bill V: (8:56:54 PM) the good news, imo
Bill V: (8:57:07 PM) is that, no matter what, i think whatever way we go
Bill V: (8:57:12 PM) ppl need us for the majority
Chase Ingmen: (8:57:24 PM) Agreed
Chase Ingmen: (8:57:46 PM) If we play this right, I think we can play the middle nicely
Chase Ingmen: (8:58:42 PM) We've got options
Chase Ingmen: (8:58:51 PM) Where is Thiago at right now?
Chase Ingmen: (8:58:55 PM) Is he still looking?
Bill V: (8:59:31 PM) well, i pretty much asked without being confrontational
Bill V: (8:59:40 PM) and he was adamant that he didn't have it
Bill V: (8:59:53 PM) again, prolly wouldn't of done so if I knew where it was
Bill V: (9:00:01 PM) I can't tell
Bill V: (9:00:18 PM) He sees you with Cassie/AJ
Bill V: (9:00:34 PM) but i can't tell if he wants to work with you 3 or blindside you, but i think its work with
Chase Ingmen: (9:01:13 PM) We still have not talked any strategy...
Chase Ingmen: (9:01:22 PM) Right now we are at least holding a convo
Bill V: (9:01:50 PM) thats good
Bill V: (9:02:02 PM) its hard, on this tribe I see Thaigo as useful
Bill V: (9:02:10 PM) but in a switch I see him as a liability
Bill V: (9:02:38 PM) i see colleen as useful, but only if I have one of y'all with me
Bill V: (9:03:02 PM) like when u were talking today about a swap, and i was with colleen, i was like omg she won't stick with me
Chase Ingmen: (9:03:02 PM) She is online late and early in the morning
Chase Ingmen: (9:03:16 PM) So she's hard to get ahold of
Bill V: (9:03:17 PM) well so am i, even still we don't really talk
Chase Ingmen: (9:03:25 PM) You talked to her last night though, right?
Bill V: (9:04:51 PM) general chat
Bill V: (9:05:03 PM) our strategy talk never goes past keeping legatu strong
Chase Ingmen: (9:05:15 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (9:05:21 PM) Sounds like Thiago and me
Chase Ingmen: (9:05:27 PM) He told me how much he loves our tribe
Bill V: (9:06:10 PM) i don't think he likes it much atm at all
Bill V: (9:06:15 PM) lol
Bill V: (9:06:24 PM) but he's just paranoid
Chase Ingmen: (9:07:15 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (9:07:17 PM) So paranoid
Bill V: (9:08:57 PM) is there anyone u fear?
Bill V: (9:09:01 PM) from this tribe or another
Chase Ingmen: (9:09:12 PM) Cassie is the biggest wildcard for me
Chase Ingmen: (9:09:21 PM) If I know where she is at, I'm fine
Chase Ingmen: (9:09:30 PM) I can just see her trying to blindside me down the line
Bill V: (9:09:40 PM) on any tribe, too, i mean
Chase Ingmen: (9:10:05 PM) I mean, it really depends on the tribe I end up on
Chase Ingmen: (9:10:11 PM) Nobody that I outright fear
Chase Ingmen: (9:10:21 PM) But in the right group, I might be more afraid
Bill V: (9:11:15 PM) mmhm, mmkay
Chase Ingmen: (9:12:44 PM) Do you have anybody?
Chase Ingmen: (9:12:58 PM) I mean, I would have said Annie, but welp
Bill V: (9:15:06 PM) and i didn't have her
Bill V: (9:15:07 PM) haha
Bill V: (9:15:22 PM) i get along well with Dom, but we haven't talked much so far
Bill V: (9:15:48 PM) but most of my focus is legatu
Chase Ingmen: (9:16:34 PM) So do you see Dom as a threat?
Bill V: (9:17:07 PM) not at the moment
Chase Ingmen: (9:18:08 PM) That's how I feel
Chase Ingmen: (9:18:31 PM) I don't see anyone outside of our tribe as a huge threat right now
Chase Ingmen: (9:18:43 PM) And even our tribe isn't THAT threatening #famouslastwords
Bill V: (9:19:47 PM) haha
Chase Ingmen: (9:27:28 PM) What do you think the balloons are for?
Bill V: (9:28:08 PM) no clue
Chase Ingmen: (9:29:49 PM) hmm
Bill V: (9:30:31 PM) ok i need to take a break from the comp, but leave an IM if u need me
Chase Ingmen: (9:31:17 PM) will do
Chase Ingmen: (9:31:20 PM) I don't blame you
Chase Ingmen: (9:31:25 PM) It's been a LONG day
Bill V: (9:31:56 PM) lol
Bill V: (9:32:00 PM) catch ya later!
Chase Ingmen: (9:32:04 PM) bye!
Chase Ingmen: (9:47:53 PM) Hey, you there?
Chase Ingmen: (9:48:04 PM) I have a question about the challenge
Bill V: (10:38:19 PM) hey
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:04 PM) I just wanted help planning for the challenge
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:09 PM) I think it's sorted out though
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:17 PM) docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhXkndkSSAZhdFh1cTJndVIzVmtFRUpMMzJnd19SOVE#gid=0
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:28 PM) I was trying to maximize points with the 15 second posting windo
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:31 PM) window
Bill V: (10:39:40 PM) great idea!
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:41 PM) Let me know how that looks
Chase Ingmen: (10:39:56 PM) That the absolute maximum we could get, I think
Bill V: (10:40:57 PM) awesome
Chase Ingmen: (10:42:27 PM) Sweet
Chase Ingmen: (10:42:35 PM) If there is any way to get more points, let me know
Chase Ingmen: (10:42:43 PM) I don't think there are though
Bill V: (10:44:23 PM) whats the 15 second posting window?
Chase Ingmen: (10:49:28 PM) You can only post once every 15 seconds
Chase Ingmen: (10:49:43 PM) So that limits how many you can throw

[henry]

[Blake] Thiago GVSE is away
Bill V: (5:34:13 PM) hey
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:34:16 PM) hey mate
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:34:39 PM) how's your day been??
Bill V: (5:34:45 PM) so i was talking to chase and he made an interesting observation that what we have tonight isn't an IC, but a swap
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:34:57 PM) i hope not
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:35:03 PM) what does that mean happens to me
Bill V: (5:35:12 PM) well, i was thinking about how that'd go
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:35:13 PM) i dont even know the other tribes
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:35:17 PM) ugh
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:35:21 PM) i'm so going premerge
Bill V: (5:35:31 PM) i think you'd be paired up with the leftover eduro
Bill V: (5:35:41 PM) and end up on a tribe with 2 other Legatus
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:35:56 PM) oh that's fine then
Bill V: (5:35:57 PM) 2 tribes of 2-2-2 and your tribe being 3-2-1
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:36:11 PM) i hope you're on my tribe
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:36:17 PM) pair up with someone good
Bill V: (5:36:50 PM) well I'm with Colleen
Bill V: (5:36:56 PM) which, onestly, is less than ideal
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:10 PM) i don't know her that well
Bill V: (5:37:13 PM) but i can't change the pairings just off of a hunch that a swap is coming
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:16 PM) right
Bill V: (5:37:21 PM) She hardly ever talks to me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:27 PM) i think i've spoken to you the most
Bill V: (5:37:28 PM) i was hoping, being her partner, she'd talk to me more
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:32 PM) and then maybe aj and cassie
Bill V: (5:37:42 PM) mmhm, we're online the most
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:37:56 PM) what happens to our idol then?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:38:09 PM) the clues are impossible
Bill V: (5:38:31 PM) I'm totally stuck
Bill V: (5:38:46 PM) at the risk of just bascially giving the idol away if you can be smarter than me
Bill V: (5:38:52 PM) but at this point i don't even care who has it
Bill V: (5:38:57 PM) as long as someone can tell me the answer
Bill V: (5:39:06 PM) theres letters in the idol clue form that are hidden
Bill V: (5:39:12 PM) but i have no idea what to make of them
Bill V: (5:39:18 PM) i would imagine you may have seen them as well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:39:25 PM) what?
Bill V: (5:39:29 PM) they don't make anything
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:39:34 PM) in the image thread?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:39:38 PM) upon the eyes of god
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:39:41 PM) where are the letters?
Bill V: (5:39:44 PM) no, the idol clue thread
Bill V: (5:39:49 PM) i don't have the board open
Bill V: (5:39:55 PM) if you haven't seen them, go look
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:39:59 PM) there's an idol clue thread wtf
Bill V: (5:40:02 PM) and highlight everything
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:06 PM) omg
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:10 PM) is that the one where justin bitched
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:11 PM) at everyone
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:16 PM) HAHA ok let me check
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:52 PM) OMG
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:40:55 PM) this is amazing
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:41:03 PM) he snuck them in a thread called idol clues
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:41:20 PM) that's kind of genius
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:41:39 PM) do we know about the other tribe's musical note color or songs
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:41:44 PM) is it the same as ours?
Bill V: (5:41:57 PM) they were, literally, idol clues
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:42:06 PM) okay
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:42:09 PM) theres 9 letters
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:42:31 PM) maybe the sentence is 9 words
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:42:36 PM) that's not very short though
Bill V: (5:42:48 PM) they don't unscramble to anything
Bill V: (5:42:56 PM) haven't you asked anyone on the other tribes about it?
Bill V: (5:43:02 PM) note colors are the same
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:03 PM) no i've been at work all day
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:06 PM) and now i'm studyig
Bill V: (5:43:09 PM) songs are all different
Bill V: (5:43:15 PM) which i assume would mean different passwords
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:17 PM) what were the songs?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:36 PM) our had a religious connotation
Bill V: (5:43:37 PM) uhh hallelujah and something by katy perry
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:46 PM) i know theres a story in the bible about someone killing their brother
Bill V: (5:43:52 PM) right
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:54 PM) i dont remember what it was though
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:43:56 PM) let me google
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:44:06 PM) the lyrics to those songs
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:44:08 PM) lol@katy perry
Bill V: (5:44:16 PM) cain and abel
Bill V: (5:44:34 PM) obviously has to do with them, but I am still stumped on what to put
Bill V: (5:44:36 PM) for the password
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:44:45 PM) okay katy perry lyrics mentions esther
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:44:49 PM) she's in the bible
Bill V: (5:45:31 PM) what did u google to get to that?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:45:42 PM) i googled katy perry religious names and esther comes up in a song called
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:45:45 PM) what am i living for
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:45:48 PM) who*j
Bill V: (5:46:30 PM) what link did u find
Bill V: (5:46:39 PM) i'm not getting anything there from google about that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:46:52 PM) name religion bible katy perry song
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:47:16 PM) 6th one down "who am i living for"
Bill V: (5:47:35 PM) kk
Bill V: (5:47:46 PM) well what do those have to do with each other?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:47:50 PM) hallelujah says David
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:47:59 PM) was he an apostle?
Bill V: (5:48:21 PM) yup, or something like that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:48:57 PM) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:49:13 PM) well cain and abel are a pair
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:49:15 PM) david and jonathan
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:49:18 PM) david and goliath
Bill V: (5:49:24 PM) prolly the latter
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:49:45 PM) i thought esther was a queen
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:49:49 PM) let me look her up
Bill V: (5:49:52 PM) yup
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:49:58 PM) who did she marry
Bill V: (5:50:00 PM) <- grew up in a religious home
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:50:02 PM) maybe that's her pair
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:50:04 PM) yeah same
Bill V: (5:50:24 PM) uhh idr
Bill V: (5:50:35 PM) then how did u forget cain and abel, haha
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:50:46 PM) shutup
Bill V: (5:50:57 PM)
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:51:00 PM) my mother would be ashamed
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:51:20 PM) i totally had the religious advantage last season
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:51:23 PM) in a couple challenges
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:51:31 PM) i won the religious crosswords one near the end
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:51:47 PM) esther's wikipedia is tl;dr
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:52:07 PM) did she even wed? queens are always married
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:52:17 PM) Xerxes

[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:52:18 PM) king Xerxes

Bill V: (5:52:22 PM) kk
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:52:29 PM) oh
Bill V: (5:52:32 PM) but thats not what she's famous for, being married
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:52:33 PM) she fought with haman
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:52:59 PM) and some dude named mordecai
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:53:25 PM) my head hurts
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:53:38 PM) i dont know how this translates into a password
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:53:42 PM) and what those letters mean
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:53:47 PM) maybe it's just a bible verse
Bill V: (5:54:16 PM) it could still be anything tho
Bill V: (5:54:31 PM) like, even if you know the themes of the passwords
Bill V: (5:54:42 PM) theres eight million different combinations of words
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:54:56 PM) he confirmed the 3 images in upon god's eyes
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:08 PM) so those have to relate
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:11 PM) the first image could be cain
Bill V: (5:55:16 PM) right
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:18 PM) cain was jealous of abel wasnt he
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:23 PM) so he defied god
Bill V: (5:55:28 PM) that was the reason he killed him
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:37 PM) esther a heroine maybe?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:40 PM) oh
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:46 PM) david slayed goliath
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:51 PM) so its definitely not david and jonathan
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:54 PM) omg
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:55:56 PM) this is coming together
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:56:07 PM) okay if we do find it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:56:10 PM) which of us takes it?
Bill V: (5:56:43 PM) whoever cracks the password
Bill V: (5:56:51 PM) which ours clearly relates to cain
Bill V: (5:57:09 PM) but how that translates into a password, i'm stuck
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:12 PM) ok what about th eletters
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:19 PM) acddeghks
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:28 PM) ac abel cain
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:33 PM) omg
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:35 PM) esther
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:36 PM) haman
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:38 PM) david
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:39 PM) goliath
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:57:52 PM) dks
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:58:07 PM) maybe we are missing 3 more people
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (5:58:12 PM) who else was in abel/cain?
Bill V: (5:59:57 PM) i mean the only other ppl even mentioned in the bible at that point are adam and eve
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:00:03 PM) :\
Bill V: (6:00:04 PM) seth comes later
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:00:12 PM) seth is an s
Bill V: (6:00:29 PM) not really useful in a sentence tho
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:00:54 PM) i don't now
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:00:59 PM) fuck
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:01:15 PM) maybe hteres clues on the forum we havent found yet
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:01:18 PM) im gonna highlight threads
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:01:24 PM) have you already done that
Bill V: (6:02:09 PM) mhm
Bill V: (6:02:12 PM) nothing else useful
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:02:26 PM) i don't know
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:02:36 PM) no way it's just a coincidence that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:02:43 PM) names alluded to in 3 songs
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:02:52 PM) matches 6 letters of a random list he posts
Bill V: (6:03:11 PM) brb gotta pee
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:03:14 PM) and stories that match the upon thread
Bill V: (6:06:27 PM) back
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:07:10 PM) wb
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:07:17 PM) i think we've hit a dead end
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:07:54 PM) i think there's a clue somehwere we dont have
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:07:55 PM) or are missing
Bill V: (6:09:17 PM) yeah, idk
Bill V: (6:10:00 PM) if you find the idol, please let me know. I really don't feel like I'm in a power position in this tribe, but i feel like a lot more could happen if I"m working with someone who has an idol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:10:24 PM) you have my word that i'll tell you
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:10:39 PM) it's useless having an idol and not telling anyone
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:11:59 PM) worked for mark and i really well last season
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:12:18 PM) i believe that you are kind of on your own, i dont get the impression that youre all that connected
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:12:29 PM) which is comforting to me because i'm in a similar spot
Bill V: (6:14:43 PM) haha thanks for that honest assessment that I'm hopeless
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:14:56 PM) well i don't think that at all
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:06 PM) but from what you've said and given that there is very little season 2
Bill V: (6:15:25 PM) And apparently Annie was just voted out
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:25 PM) and you're kind of a player from a while ago, and don't play very often
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:36 PM) wow
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:50 PM) my biggest concern is
Bill V: (6:15:53 PM) yeah, she was so confident she was staying too
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:15:59 PM) 1) i don't know enough people and 2) i don't know who is friends with who
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:16:14 PM) and i'm paranoid saying much to people because i dont know who they are close with outside of the game
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:16:21 PM) and i dont want to say the wrong thing to the wron gperson
Bill V: (6:16:24 PM) i think you downplay your abilities
Bill V: (6:16:43 PM) just like how you're downplaying how much you've known about the idol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:16:44 PM) what do you mean?
Bill V: (6:16:48 PM) let's have a come to jesus moment
Bill V: (6:16:53 PM) i must confess
Bill V: (6:17:05 PM) i got into the idol forum a little while ago, maybe an hour or a little longer
Bill V: (6:17:10 PM) and it was gone
Bill V: (6:17:29 PM) now, considering youre online, and how you were probing me for extra clues earlier today
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:17:29 PM) uh
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:17:32 PM) what was the password?
Bill V: (6:17:40 PM) i would have to think that maybe you have it
Bill V: (6:17:43 PM) which is totally ok
Bill V: (6:17:46 PM) really
Bill V: (6:17:55 PM) if anything it might actually help us form a real alliance
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:17:56 PM) henry
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:00 PM) i don't have the idol
Bill V: (6:18:02 PM) cainmuderesable
Bill V: (6:18:07 PM) something like that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:23 PM) i'm definitely up for an alliance but i don't have an idol to offer to the table
Bill V: (6:18:33 PM) hmm, interesting
Bill V: (6:18:37 PM) well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:18:52 PM) now i'm worried that you don't believe me and think i have an idol
Bill V: (6:19:09 PM) i also think you downplay who you know, because even if you didn't have the password
Bill V: (6:19:19 PM) you rattled through clues that took me hours
Bill V: (6:19:23 PM) in, like, a few minutes
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:19:52 PM) i don't really know what to say
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:20:10 PM) i did find it odd that you werent on the forum while i was during our convo
Bill V: (6:20:42 PM) ya sorry i'm doing some banking
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:21:06 PM) i think i've been candid about who i know
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:21:13 PM) i know sami, people from my season, that's about it
Bill V: (6:22:53 PM) yeah, i think those are great connections that you should def utilize
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:23:10 PM) how does cain murders abel
Bill V: (6:23:11 PM) and i mean, if you guys are willing to adopt me into that crew i'd be ok with that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:23:17 PM) match the letters
Bill V: (6:23:21 PM) no fucking idea
Bill V: (6:23:26 PM) you got more on the letters than i did
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:23:36 PM) reading our convo
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:23:39 PM) you kind of prodded me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:23:51 PM) "i dont think thats the only important relationship esther had"
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:23:58 PM) "i think david and goliath is more common"
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:24:11 PM) reminded me on abel/cain lmao
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:24:28 PM) i got home from work just after 5
Bill V: (6:24:35 PM) well i figured out those images a long time ago
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:24:37 PM) and saw the music clues this morning before work
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:24:45 PM) so i really haven't had time to work on it
Bill V: (6:24:47 PM) and then knowing chapter 4 in genesis is the cain and able
Bill V: (6:24:56 PM) and that its by the band avenge sevenfold
Bill V: (6:25:00 PM) which, if anyone killed cain
Bill V: (6:25:05 PM) they'd be avenged sevenfold
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:25:11 PM) before i went to work i looked up the episode quote title for episode 7 of season 4
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:25:15 PM) after you told me the band name
Bill V: (6:25:15 PM) that pretty much seemed like it
Bill V: (6:25:36 PM) oh, that would have been an interesting perspective
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:25:50 PM) dude i'm not in any crew
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:25:53 PM) i don't trust sami at ALL
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:26:10 PM) she's had 3-4 years to build relationships with this new gaming community
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:26:34 PM) i'm not naive enough to think that sami would bat for me just because i knew her from 3-4 years ago
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:26:52 PM) and you saw how things ended with mark/gloria/ben/knox last season and myself
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:27:12 PM) ben/gloria/knox all voted for mark and campaigned against me in the jury thread, and this was just 2 weeks ago, and mark was pissed at me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:27:22 PM) so if anyone is to feel pretty alone it's me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:28:14 PM) i'm very happy to work with you, i've spoken highly of you in my confessional and there's some unexplained comfort in seeing a familiar face admist a lot of strangers, but i really don't have a whole lot to bring to the table here besides my abilities as a player
Bill V: (6:28:36 PM) well, I haven't confirmed this
Bill V: (6:28:44 PM) but I'm pretty sure Annie was targeting Mark? idk
Bill V: (6:28:51 PM) but seeing that she went
Bill V: (6:29:01 PM) I would have to assume that would require Mark and Gloria to be voting together
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:29:02 PM) mark/ben/gloria being togetherw ouldnt shock me
Bill V: (6:29:10 PM) so I think there's some season 5 parternship u can rely on
Bill V: (6:29:14 PM) in a swap
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:29:18 PM) mark ALWAYS loved ben and gloria and was sad that he couldnt keep them around
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:29:47 PM) dude there isn't a season 5 thing going on
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:29:52 PM) at least not one i'm involved in
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:30:19 PM) now i feel like you're coming to me less because you like me and more because you think i'm in a season 5 alliance
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:30:43 PM) if i was in one i'd happily bring you in, there would be no negative to taking in a stray if i was in a season 5 alliance
Bill V: (6:30:54 PM) well, i mean i would want to be in an alliance with you
Bill V: (6:30:59 PM) i'm just assessing your resources
Bill V: (6:31:00 PM) haha
Bill V: (6:31:08 PM) because 2 ppl can't do much
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:31:13 PM) yeah i'm aware
Bill V: (6:31:19 PM) when ppl are clearly working cross-tribally
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:31:22 PM) which is why i'm more freaking out that you don't beleive me, because i'm really 1 person here
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:31:39 PM) to be honest i'm afriad that you think i have an idol and i'm in a season 5 alliance
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:31:48 PM) and that i'm going to go home
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:31:53 PM) AND someone on our tribe has an idol now
Bill V: (6:32:02 PM) I think thats more your paranoia talking
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:32:13 PM) of course it is!
Bill V: (6:32:15 PM) I would hope that you don't see me as that deceitful
Bill V: (6:32:32 PM) i mean, that kinda sucks
Bill V: (6:32:39 PM) i did kinda think you had it
Bill V: (6:32:50 PM) and i was hoping that it'd kinda charge us into getting something going
Bill V: (6:32:54 PM) but i'm ok with it if u don't
Bill V: (6:33:01 PM) i'd still like the discussion to happen
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:33:06 PM) i thought you may have been trying to help me find it when i saw you werent on the forum when i thought we were both searching the forum
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:33:33 PM) but i'm still trying to figure out the murders thing
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:33:49 PM) i guess it doesn't matter
Bill V: (6:33:52 PM) well, you tossed out some clue right away that i already knew, and then after that you were hammering through clues so fast in a way that wasn't intuitive to me
Bill V: (6:34:00 PM) like, zeroing in right away on things
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:09 PM) lmao well go me
Bill V: (6:34:11 PM) ester, david, those being ppl
Bill V: (6:34:16 PM) i mean, thats awesome
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:20 PM) well they were right in the song
Bill V: (6:34:24 PM) but it just read as unbelievable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:26 PM) hallejulah has David capitalized at the start
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:33 PM) i'm happy to have impressed you
Bill V: (6:34:36 PM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:40 PM) i thought it was a team effort but apparently not
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:34:45 PM) but see, i'm an UNBELIEVABLE ally
Bill V: (6:35:27 PM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:36:05 PM) between you and me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:36:23 PM) annie had contacted me last round telling me that aj and cassie are best friends or some shit like that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:36:42 PM) i didnt really like it because i'm not that cool with the cross-tribal crap
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:37:12 PM) i asked aj about it and she said that it's true but that in season 3 cassie betrayed her
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:37:33 PM) so even though aj/cassie may be tight, i've gotten along with them both pretty well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:37:44 PM) i'm not sure if there's an in with them
Bill V: (6:38:24 PM) well, i knew they were friends in season 3
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:38:31 PM) i didn't know that
Bill V: (6:38:32 PM) so in my mind, sure, i pair them together
Bill V: (6:38:58 PM) its funny that annie will give you those heads ups and not me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:07 PM) i found it odd
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:13 PM) which was kinda shady
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:20 PM) when people you dont talk to are like HEY DID YOU KNOW
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:27 PM) it wasnt that blunt but she got to the point rather quickly
Bill V: (6:39:32 PM) The girl plays really hard, very manipulative
Bill V: (6:39:36 PM) that's how everyone in season 2 was
Bill V: (6:39:40 PM) very blunt and offputting
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:41 PM) so to me it seemed like an attempt to put a seed in my head
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:39:49 PM) that's why i asked aj about it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:04 PM) annie had told me they go to SCHOOL together in real life and aj said that's not true at all, they live in different states
Bill V: (6:40:15 PM) I'm sure everyone on the other tribes wants to see us self-destruct as a tribe and/or prevent Season 3 from working together
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:18 PM) so i'm not sad to see annie gone at all
Bill V: (6:40:28 PM) I know AJ lives in Georgia and Cassie, uhhh i think NY?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:38 PM) yeah thats what aj told me
Bill V: (6:40:39 PM) i might be wrong on assie
Bill V: (6:40:41 PM) cassie*
Bill V: (6:40:43 PM) idr
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:40:48 PM) i dont remember either but they were far enough apart
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:41:44 PM) challenge is up
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:41:45 PM) no twist
Bill V: (6:43:50 PM) looks like youre stuck with me
Bill V: (6:43:52 PM) brb
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (6:44:02 PM) is that a bad thing
Bill V: (7:38:29 PM) ok sorry
Bill V: (7:38:33 PM) i'm back now
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:38:36 PM) hey no worries
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:38:41 PM) need to pay rent somehow
Bill V: (7:39:08 PM) well, i guess our building got sold to another rental property group
Bill V: (7:39:15 PM) so i have to do all this new paperwork
Bill V: (7:39:16 PM) fml
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:39:22 PM) sorry to hear
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:39:25 PM) that's shit timing
Bill V: (7:39:56 PM) lol ikr
Bill V: (7:39:57 PM) oh well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:45:01 PM) so if you want to work together, i'm down
Bill V: (7:45:55 PM) well, we'll need to be in a group bigger than 2, who else would u want to bring in
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:46:22 PM) well we have two avenues really
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:47:02 PM) it's either aj/ryan/cassie or quincy/colleen
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:47:06 PM) at least that's kind of how i see it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:47:36 PM) sorry aj/cassie/chase*
Bill V: (7:47:37 PM) you mean aj/cassie/chase*
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:47:47 PM) i'm trying to multitask sorry
Bill V: (7:48:02 PM) well, do you think colleen is working with cassie?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:48:19 PM) i don't have any clue
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:48:32 PM) i know cassie told me that she had concerns about chase because they had a falling out after season 3
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:48:40 PM) but that they patched things up a few days ago and they're totally cool
Bill V: (7:48:49 PM) I feel like you, me, and Quincy just need to see who amongst them is willing to vote out another season 3 person
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:48:59 PM) have you had a chance to speak with quincy?
Bill V: (7:50:24 PM) honestly not really
Bill V: (7:50:35 PM) he doesn't get on it seems, execpt around challenges
Bill V: (7:50:43 PM) during which i'm usually working too hard to be very chatty
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:50:46 PM) yeah i've found that too
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:50:53 PM) i really liked the one chat we had
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:51:03 PM) he had mentioned the observation of season 3people
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:51:11 PM) but do you really think that it's something to be worried about?
Bill V: (7:54:39 PM) its hard to say
Bill V: (7:54:47 PM) theres the saying, better to stick with the enemy you know
Bill V: (7:55:03 PM) but at the same time, they may be worried about their own perception
Bill V: (7:55:10 PM) i think if you or I or quincy go
Bill V: (7:55:17 PM) the other tribes will assume theres a season 3 alliance
Bill V: (7:55:20 PM) whether there is or not
Bill V: (7:55:33 PM) and they may want to avoid that
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:55:43 PM) that's an interesting thought
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:55:57 PM) i wish colleen and quincy were around more to pick their brains
Bill V: (7:55:58 PM) and then of course you have to consider the influence of ppl on other tribes
Bill V: (7:56:07 PM) which is the wildcard to me
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:56:35 PM) i've really bonded nicely with aj and cassie i feel
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:56:49 PM) but they are also both known for being terrific social players
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:57:04 PM) so i may not be the only one who feels that i've bonded with them
Bill V: (7:57:17 PM) well, as long as we're on this tribe
Bill V: (7:57:21 PM) i really just want to be safe
Bill V: (7:57:27 PM) because we have such a long way to go
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:57:31 PM) yep
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:57:48 PM) i don't anticipate a swap anytime soon
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:57:58 PM) i dont think he'd go out of his way to make tribe banner images if we swapped early
Bill V: (7:57:58 PM) what do you think this balloon nonsense is?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:58:02 PM) no idea
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:58:07 PM) prizes maybe
Bill V: (7:58:57 PM) possibly, but he said the only prizes this season were idols
Bill V: (7:59:05 PM) i wonder if its, like, tasks
Bill V: (7:59:08 PM) or secrets
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:59:12 PM) interesting
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:59:34 PM) so are we going to make it official
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:59:37 PM) that we have each other's backs?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (7:59:44 PM) believe it or not, it would be my first of the game
Bill V: (8:01:05 PM) right, well, no offense but i think i need you here because you're actually a bigger target than me haha
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:01:27 PM) i appreciate the honest
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:01:29 PM) honesty
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:01:43 PM) and with annie and emily gone i feel more comfortable with you
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:01:49 PM) annie always worried me a bit
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:01:57 PM) i felt uneasy when she'd talk to me
Bill V: (8:02:03 PM) i woulda voted her out asap
Bill V: (8:02:06 PM) she's like that with me too
Bill V: (8:02:13 PM) i tried to get her out in season 2
Bill V: (8:02:19 PM) but Emily wouldn't do it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:02:24 PM) i don't like free radicals
Bill V: (8:02:30 PM) bless her, but she isn't a good strategist
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:02:33 PM) that are willing to do whatever, whenever
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:02:35 PM) to advance
Bill V: (8:02:44 PM) Wendy is also dangerous
Bill V: (8:02:50 PM) because she's unpredictable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:02:51 PM) i don't know anything about wendy
Bill V: (8:02:55 PM) she'll vote for literally anyone
Bill V: (8:02:59 PM) and shes not a good player
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:02:59 PM) she wasnt a fan of me in the PW lounge
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:03:08 PM) even though i was a tad villainous after the merge
Bill V: (8:03:15 PM) with Annie I think she was dangerous because annie would have been telling her what to do
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:03:16 PM) i'm super loyal to my original alliances
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:03:25 PM) i feel accomplished going deep with the people i started with
Bill V: (8:03:29 PM) now wendy doesn't have that, but it also means she'll prolly start going kinda OTT
Bill V: (8:03:53 PM) and i pretty much had the opposite experience as you
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:04:17 PM) i feel like we're upsetting the gods
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:04:25 PM) it's like a villain and hero coming together
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:04:48 PM) although in my opinion i played heroically, doing anything i could to keep my original allies safe
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:04:53 PM) but justin saw it differently
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:05:00 PM) he said i was more like todd from china
Bill V: (8:05:16 PM) and i really think i was kinda a villain, lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:05:18 PM) i felt more like yul but oh well
Bill V: (8:05:21 PM) i mean i certainly wasn't nice, lol
Bill V: (8:05:31 PM) i was just the underdog cuz i never had good alliances
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:05:54 PM) i feel like this is a game where
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:05:59 PM) there wont be solid alliances, or blocks
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:06:05 PM) and it'll just be constant power shifts
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:06:34 PM) all stars games, almost without fail, the people in the end game are middle-level people. never at the top, never at the bottom. floaters i guess?
Bill V: (8:06:41 PM) it'll either be that or we'll just run into a powerhouse alliance that's been working cross-tribally
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:06:51 PM) well that would suck ass
Bill V: (8:07:51 PM) well if that happens, i just throw my hands in the air and say whatever
Bill V: (8:07:53 PM) nothin i could do
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:07:57 PM) yeah
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:08:03 PM) win idols and immunities
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:08:14 PM) i feel like karma after last season that's the place i'll end up in
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:08:42 PM) i'm thinking gloria/mark/ben must have pulled in michael or dominic
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:08:49 PM) given it was 4-3
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:09:12 PM) ben is close to ellen but he's also close to aj/cassie/colleen
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:09:26 PM) so there's a long line of potential trailing
Bill V: (8:09:32 PM) Wendy thinks it was her and Michael in the minority
Bill V: (8:09:36 PM) I IM'd her to get the scoop
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:09:40 PM) alright
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:09:43 PM) so dom was in there
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:09:46 PM) and dom is also tight with ellen
Bill V: (8:09:56 PM) I know we both like ellen
Bill V: (8:10:01 PM) but I think she's running the game
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:10:10 PM) aj/cassie have issues with ellen
Bill V: (8:10:12 PM) because she has people in all 3 tribes who like her
Bill V: (8:10:32 PM) meh, they went F3 with her, they'll trust her again
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:10:32 PM) you know sami as well as i do
Bill V: (8:10:35 PM) mmhm
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:10:35 PM) she's crazy sweet
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:10:38 PM) but very calculating
Bill V: (8:10:39 PM) oh for sure
Bill V: (8:10:41 PM) to both
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:10:43 PM) sami ALWAYS goes far, always
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:10:51 PM) and once she gets people in her emotional spell, it's over
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:11:02 PM) she'll pull that guilt card out so quick on people
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:11:49 PM) i know that ellen and luca are close
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:11:58 PM) and the fact that luca hasnt been voted off tells me ellen must be in a majority
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:12:02 PM) given every vote has been unanimous
Bill V: (8:12:19 PM) for sure
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:12:25 PM) i found it strange that knox is still in
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:12:45 PM) but i know ellen and gloria are also close and gloria and knox are close, and luca is also close with gloria
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:13:10 PM) so you can kind of see why my head has gone into doomsday mode
Bill V: (8:13:10 PM) see, this network is a problem
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:13:27 PM) i don't know where quincy lies at all
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:13:32 PM) i kind of feel like he's like us
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:13:41 PM) but it's hard to work with someone that isn't around much
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:13:54 PM) i always had access to mark last season and that made things very easy
Bill V: (8:14:28 PM) mmhm
Bill V: (8:14:39 PM) tho hasn't he been kinda mia this time?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:14:52 PM) quincy?
Bill V: (8:15:08 PM) mark
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:15:15 PM) i don't know
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:15:17 PM) he's online a lot
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:15:22 PM) we don't speak much
Bill V: (8:15:30 PM) do u know who annie/wendy voted for?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:15:35 PM) i don't know
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:15:48 PM) you said annie was targetting mark?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:16:45 PM) you didnt ask wendy when you talked to her?
Bill V: (8:18:26 PM) no, it took forever for her to even respond that she was in the minority
Bill V: (8:18:36 PM) then i got busy
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:18:47 PM) haha so you had to pry
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:18:49 PM) that's frustrating
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:18:57 PM) it would come out eventually
Bill V: (8:18:59 PM) you always have to pry with wendy
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:19:07 PM) i hate that
Bill V: (8:19:11 PM) before annie left
Bill V: (8:19:19 PM) she said she was voting for someone who wasn't doing anything in challenge
Bill V: (8:19:20 PM) s
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:20:55 PM) well that wouldnt be mark
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:20:57 PM) mark is a beast
Bill V: (8:21:08 PM) i know he missed the first challenge tho
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:21:13 PM) oh really
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:21:15 PM) well then maybe
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:21:23 PM) i know his wife was upset last season because he spent so little time with her
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:21:32 PM) so it's possible he has less availability
Bill V: (8:21:34 PM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:21:40 PM) it might explain some of his lack of talking to me
Bill V: (8:21:48 PM) well it was fathers day that day of the challenge, too
Bill V: (8:21:50 PM) if u remember
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:21:55 PM) oh yeah that's right
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:22:01 PM) he's got a kid
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:22:12 PM) i don't know if you know mark
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:22:27 PM) i never heard of him but he said he starting playing around 2009 and i was still sorta around
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:22:32 PM) kcadams was his account
Bill V: (8:23:06 PM) hmmm, that sounds familiar
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:23:07 PM) so that kinda made me feel comfortable with him last season, knowing he was around when i was
Bill V: (8:23:13 PM) is his name kyle?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:23:21 PM) YES
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:23:22 PM) that's it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:23:31 PM) he's from texas
Bill V: (8:23:32 PM) idk how he feels about me
Bill V: (8:23:47 PM) we're in different friend circles, but we know of each other
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:23:48 PM) i never asked him
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:24:00 PM) tbh i didn't even look into who you were until all stars lmao
Bill V: (8:24:20 PM) i prolly woulda stayed annon
Bill V: (8:24:24 PM) but i was too lazy to make a new s/n
Bill V: (8:24:25 PM) lmao
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:24:31 PM) well seeing your avatar pic
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:24:34 PM) i recognized you right away
Bill V: (8:24:34 PM) i honestly figured i'd do terrible at gvse2
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:24:40 PM) handsome devil
Bill V: (8:24:40 PM) i'm always bad at alias games
Bill V: (8:24:49 PM)
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:01 PM) although mike should have won voyeur 2.0
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:06 PM) he was clearly the mastermind
Bill V: (8:25:08 PM) >_<
Bill V: (8:25:11 PM) he almost did
Bill V: (8:25:13 PM) if u remember
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:14 PM) lOL
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:15 PM) YES
Bill V: (8:25:16 PM) Sami voted for him to win
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:17 PM) that was so hilarious
Bill V: (8:25:19 PM) and someone else
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:20 PM) jadie too
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:25 PM) who has also deleted me on facebook
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:35 PM) her and sami both deleted me not long after voyeur
Bill V: (8:25:41 PM) i'm friends with none of them now
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:50 PM) and sami coincidentally added me 1 week before all stars
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:25:58 PM) sorry
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:26:01 PM) before gvse5
Bill V: (8:26:11 PM) lol, she never readded me, but my fb has a different name now
Bill V: (8:26:16 PM) so she prolly can't even find me
Bill V: (8:26:22 PM) i kinda purged myself of that community
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:26:27 PM) yeah same
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:26:33 PM) although i was never really "in" it
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:26:38 PM) i was more of a viewer/lurker
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:26:45 PM) travis is kind of crazy
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:27:31 PM) also i wanted to ask
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:27:34 PM) who was online this afternoon?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:27:43 PM) the host edited that the idol was found at 3:52pm
Bill V: (8:27:56 PM) well, i did some research on this
Bill V: (8:28:05 PM) the ppl on AIM were you, AJ, and Chase
Bill V: (8:28:11 PM) but Cassie was also on the board during that time
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:28:16 PM) well i'm always on AIM
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:28:26 PM) i was on the subway at that hour
Bill V: (8:28:37 PM) mmkay
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:28:55 PM) i don't have an idol hoe
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:29:08 PM) do you really think aj would be able to find it?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:29:25 PM) cassie or chase finding it is very plausible
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:29:46 PM) i think they are both very capable
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:30:02 PM) that may be more of an incentive to work with them
Bill V: (8:31:17 PM) well i certainly don't want to get idol'd out of the game
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:32:42 PM) that's my biggest fear
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:32:50 PM) back when i used to play we didnt have idols
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:32:54 PM) and if we did there was like ONE
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:32:57 PM) not like FOUR
Bill V: (8:33:47 PM) i'm comfortable with the idols
Bill V: (8:33:50 PM) just gotta be smart
Bill V: (8:33:52 PM) thats all
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:34:04 PM) i'd rather there werent any
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:34:07 PM) i dont even like them on the show
Bill V: (8:37:37 PM) overall i'm ok with it
Bill V: (8:37:51 PM) I woulda been in 20th place had it not been for them in my season
Bill V: (8:37:52 PM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:37:58 PM) LOL
Bill V: (8:38:11 PM) I was kinda drunk
Bill V: (8:38:16 PM) and didn't vote with my tribe in the first TC
Bill V: (8:38:19 PM) lol
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:38:22 PM) lmao
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:38:24 PM) that's awesome
Bill V: (8:38:25 PM) so i was the obvious next boot
Bill V: (8:38:31 PM) then i got into our locked forum
Bill V: (8:38:37 PM) but there wasn't an idol, it was half an idol
Bill V: (8:38:56 PM) but no one knew that, they only found out that i broke into the forum
Bill V: (8:39:00 PM) one person caught me
Bill V: (8:39:17 PM) but that was enough to change up the dynamics on the tribe
Bill V: (8:39:21 PM) and i stayed, yay!
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:39:29 PM) nice
Bill V: (8:40:58 PM) I wonder why Perry's name is gold
Bill V: (8:41:05 PM) and Annie/Emily are white
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:41:52 PM) wow
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:41:56 PM) nice observation
Bill V: (8:42:47 PM) i think its a mistake
Bill V: (8:42:55 PM) because he had the wrong person whited out before
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:42:59 PM) likely

Bill V: (8:43:03 PM) and theres a > randomly above him as well
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:43:37 PM) where?
Bill V: (8:43:47 PM) above the gold box
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:43:48 PM) oh youre right
Bill V: (8:43:49 PM) in white
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:52:02 PM) sorry was on the phone
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:52:15 PM) well what do you think we should work towards
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:52:22 PM) anyone we should chat more with?
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (8:52:41 PM) i'm not sure what type of relationship you have with any of the season 3 people
Bill V: (9:30:43 PM) omg sorry i didn't see this
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (9:30:50 PM)
Bill V: (9:30:59 PM) i've been cooking
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (9:30:59 PM) busy whacking off or something i'm sure
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (9:31:04 PM) mmmhmmmm
Bill V: (9:31:05 PM)
Bill V: (9:31:06 PM) lol
Bill V: (9:31:15 PM) but i need to take a break from the comp, but leave an IM if u need me
Bill V: (9:31:19 PM) we can chat more about this later, if thats ok
Bill V: (9:31:24 PM) my back just really hurts
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (9:31:25 PM) yeah absoltuely
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (9:31:31 PM) lay down
[Blake] Thiago GVSE: (9:31:35 PM) take care man!
Bill V: (9:31:39 PM) gonna lay on the floor and watch Chopped

[henry]

Quincy GVSE: (11:45:56 PM) Hey henry!
Quincy GVSE: (11:46:02 PM) thanks for explaining the challenge
Quincy GVSE: (11:46:10 PM) you did better than the others! :0
Quincy GVSE: (11:46:13 PM) *
Bill V: (11:46:47 PM) haha AJ told me she was struggling
Bill V: (11:46:53 PM) and i know you didn't have a lot of free time
Quincy GVSE: (11:47:25 PM) Ah, I'm soo sorry about that
Quincy GVSE: (11:47:36 PM) it's my first job ever
Quincy GVSE: (11:47:48 PM) and they're really making me way more than they should
Quincy GVSE: (11:48:04 PM) but I only work 7 days during two weeks
Quincy GVSE: (11:48:15 PM) so I'll have a lot of time soon
Bill V: (11:48:30 PM) its ok
Quincy GVSE: (11:48:48 PM) I'm really nervous about the game though.
Quincy GVSE: (11:48:59 PM) I really feel helpless
Quincy GVSE: (11:49:03 PM) and it' only begun
Bill V: (11:49:19 PM) its ok, we can talk about it later
Quincy GVSE: (11:49:44 PM) ok. thanks Henry!
Quincy GVSE: (11:49:54 PM) I'll just try to make it through the challenge first
Quincy GVSE: (11:49:56 PM)
Bill V: (11:49:59 PM) one step at a time
Quincy GVSE: (11:50:12 PM) yes. i need to take a breath
Bill V: (11:50:37 PM) not a problem

[henry]

Bill V: (7:09:12 AM) Hi!
Colleen GVSE: (7:09:21 AM) hey hey
Bill V: (7:09:31 AM) how r u?
Colleen GVSE: (7:09:41 AM) good thanks how are you
Bill V: (7:09:45 AM) alright!
Bill V: (7:10:03 AM) So, I'm actually gonna go lay back down soon
Colleen GVSE: (7:10:08 AM) oh
Bill V: (7:10:12 AM) but i was up and so i wanted to be here for u when u got on
Bill V: (7:10:25 AM) The challenge is up and i also sent you a PM
Colleen GVSE: (7:10:28 AM) oh well what time would you be back if you went to lay down
Bill V: (7:10:35 AM) in time to post
Colleen GVSE: (7:10:49 AM) okay
Colleen GVSE: (7:10:53 AM) ill read ur pm
Bill V: (7:10:56 AM) i assume since you got on and i bombarded you right away you haven't looked through everything yet
Bill V: (7:11:21 AM) basically, you're gonna 'throw' some balls and i'll catch em (we already did all the gay sex puns for that)
Bill V: (7:11:37 AM) Chase came up with the optimal strategy
Bill V: (7:11:42 AM) for scoring the most points
Bill V: (7:11:53 AM) it requires 2 hours, if you can commit to that
Colleen GVSE: (7:12:07 AM) lol @ gay sex puns
Bill V: (7:12:28 AM) In the first minute, you need to post the 9 ball as many times as you can (max 4, 3 would be pretty good) (you can only post every 15 seconds on the board)
Colleen GVSE: (7:12:35 AM) okay
Bill V: (7:12:48 AM) After that first minute, for the rest of the first hour
Bill V: (7:13:15 AM) first post a 7
Bill V: (7:13:33 AM) then spend the rest of the time posting 8s as many as you can
Colleen GVSE: (7:13:48 AM) okay so 1 min 9 1 min 7 58 mins 8 ?
Bill V: (7:13:48 AM) For hour 2, first, post one 5 ball
Bill V: (7:14:00 AM) literally just one 7
Bill V: (7:14:05 AM) then all 8s
Colleen GVSE: (7:14:05 AM) oh
Colleen GVSE: (7:14:07 AM) just one D:
Colleen GVSE: (7:14:09 AM) okay
Bill V: (7:14:11 AM) yeah
Bill V: (7:14:13 AM) the idea behind that
Bill V: (7:14:21 AM) is that if we catch at least one of each type of ball
Bill V: (7:14:25 AM) we get a 15 pt bonus
Bill V: (7:14:41 AM) so, we need one 7 to work on that, but after that do 8s cuz they're worth more
Bill V: (7:14:53 AM) Hour 2: First, post one 5 (for the same reason)
Bill V: (7:15:03 AM) and then post as many 6s as you can
Bill V: (7:15:11 AM) then youre all done
Bill V: (7:15:39 AM) The PM I sent you lays that all out
Colleen GVSE: (7:15:40 AM) okay
Bill V: (7:15:45 AM) Chase did the math
Colleen GVSE: (7:15:49 AM) haha hes smart lol
Bill V: (7:16:02 AM) mathmatically, thats the way to get the most bang for our buck (and make the timing the simplest)
Bill V: (7:16:23 AM) so, when u r ready, just make a thread like quincy did and go for it! Be mindful of the time
Bill V: (7:16:37 AM) and I'll pop on in a few hours when its time for me to catch all these
Bill V: (7:16:39 AM) and do my thing
Colleen GVSE: (7:16:45 AM) okay
Bill V: (7:17:07 AM) I know you'll rock this, and thanks for doing it after I know you had a long day
Bill V: (7:17:10 AM) did the day go ok?
Colleen GVSE: (7:17:16 AM) yeah haha
Colleen GVSE: (7:17:21 AM) it went fast
Colleen GVSE: (7:17:23 AM) actually
Colleen GVSE: (7:17:32 AM) do we all have the same strat?
Bill V: (7:17:45 AM) good!
Bill V: (7:17:49 AM) i think so
Bill V: (7:17:56 AM) tho Quincy is being helped by AJ
Bill V: (7:18:01 AM) and their communication
Bill V: (7:18:06 AM) has been kinda not so great
Bill V: (7:18:07 AM) haha
Colleen GVSE: (7:18:10 AM) im confused cuz quincy posted
Colleen GVSE: (7:18:13 AM) one 9
Bill V: (7:18:18 AM) yeah he fucked up
Bill V: (7:18:20 AM) he doesn't get it
Colleen GVSE: (7:18:24 AM) oh lol okay
Colleen GVSE: (7:18:29 AM) so just follow what u wrote haha
Colleen GVSE: (7:18:31 AM) got it haha
Bill V: (7:18:38 AM) right, and if you need another visual
Bill V: (7:18:42 AM) look what chase posted
Colleen GVSE: (7:18:45 AM) okay
Bill V: (7:18:45 AM) in the tribe chat
Bill V: (7:18:50 AM) docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhXkndkSSAZhdFh1cTJndVIzVmtFRUpMMzJnd19SOVE#gid=0
Bill V: (7:18:53 AM) ^ that
Bill V: (7:19:19 AM) so, anyway, I have 7 hours from the time you begin before i have to do anything
Bill V: (7:19:32 AM) so i'm gonna nap and actually mehbe go to the beach!
Bill V: (7:19:40 AM) but don't worry, i'll be back in time
Colleen GVSE: (7:19:48 AM) its fine
Colleen GVSE: (7:19:51 AM) ill start in
Bill V: (7:19:51 AM) (beach is walking distance)
Colleen GVSE: (7:19:54 AM) 10 mins or so
Bill V: (7:19:57 AM) whenever you want
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:01 AM) oh okay
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:07 AM) well maybe in 40 then haha
Bill V: (7:20:12 AM) I think we'll be the best team
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:15 AM) yay
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:22 AM) -messes the whole chall up-
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:23 AM) jk haha
Bill V: (7:20:27 AM) lmfao MOLE!
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:30 AM)
Colleen GVSE: (7:20:40 AM) okay talk to you soon enjoy ur nap and beach haha
Bill V: (7:20:57 AM) thanks sorry i got straight to the point, but we'll chat later
Bill V: (7:21:03 AM) c ya!
Colleen GVSE: (7:21:04 AM) oh no its fine
Colleen GVSE: (7:21:06 AM) seeya!

[henry]

[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (8:57:08 PM) YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY
Bill V: (8:59:08 PM) Great job AJ <3
Bill V: (8:59:28 PM) Ellen/Luca and Dom/Gloria were so strong! But we worked and beat them as a team
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (8:59:38 PM) YES!!!!!
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (8:59:45 PM) Like always, team effort!!!!!!!!! That's why we're the best!!!
Bill V: (9:00:35 PM) for sure
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:01:06 PM) I don't want to switch ):
Bill V: (9:01:47 PM) my guess is
Bill V: (9:01:53 PM) one more round, 1 tribe to TC
Bill V: (9:01:56 PM) then we swap
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:02:04 PM) Oh really?
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:02:13 PM) I feel like we're swapping like, right after this TC
Bill V: (9:02:39 PM) I mean it's plausible
Bill V: (9:02:53 PM) but who's to say if he wants to keep it at 3 tribes or 2
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:03:01 PM) What else could the balloons mean though?
Bill V: (9:03:13 PM) i dunno
Bill V: (9:03:21 PM) i don't feel like the balloons could be for the swap tho
Bill V: (9:03:29 PM) since someone would be taking a balloon who was getting voted out
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:04:01 PM) Oh, that's true....
Bill V: (9:04:25 PM) i mean, its plausible
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:04:43 PM) I'm definitely glad we're safe
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:04:49 PM) But we're going to all be such big target
Bill V: (9:04:49 PM) well of course, haha
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:04:50 PM) lol
Bill V: (9:05:00 PM) well, the good thing is ellen and dom keep winning too
Bill V: (9:05:07 PM) and thats more of an individual threat
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:05:26 PM) For sure
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:05:39 PM) Ugh, Ellen hates me so much
[Kirin] AJ GVSE: (9:05:51 PM) I feel like if I end up on a tribe with her, I'm done
Bill V: (9:06:58 PM) well, we'll see how things shake out
Bill V: (9:07:08 PM) anyway
Bill V: (9:07:10 PM) i'm going out
Bill V: (9:07:12 PM) so i'll ttyl!

[henry]

Bill V: (8:37:38 PM) Congrats on again being safe!
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:37:52 PM) aw thanks!
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:37:54 PM) you too
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:37:58 PM) how's Legatu?
Bill V: (8:38:24 PM) i think we were the most high strung about winning this one, we certainly battled some tech problems
Bill V: (8:38:41 PM) can you imagine if you had been on our tribe?!? We would win straight to the end, haha
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:38:49 PM) haha
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:38:57 PM) well the first one was lucky
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:39:12 PM) the second two were just a lot of posting
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:39:14 PM) but yeah
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:39:28 PM) I've already tied my S3 numbers of II
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:39:37 PM) I'm so screwed in this game
Bill V: (8:42:09 PM) naw, youre adorable so i'm sure you'll do just fine
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:42:15 PM) <3
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:42:21 PM) you guys are beasting!
Bill V: (8:42:21 PM) our 'tribe' will be seen as just as big of a threat
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:42:40 PM) how are things over there?
Bill V: (8:42:45 PM) I really think we're winning just because we're getting equal participation
Bill V: (8:43:02 PM) well, the pro with winning is you stay, the con is that you never really know where you stand
Bill V: (8:43:30 PM) obviously 2 Season 2 ppl are already out, so I mean I don't feel super great about my prospects, haha
Bill V: (8:43:34 PM) but i'm managing
Bill V: (8:43:48 PM) How are you feeling about a 3rd Tribal Council?
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:44:04 PM) well
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:44:13 PM) the girls and you werent close right?
Bill V: (8:44:57 PM) naw, I got along with Emily
Bill V: (8:45:02 PM) but not Annie and Wendy
Bill V: (8:45:11 PM) My alliance in that game tho was with Taylor
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:45:22 PM) Taylor <3 lol
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:45:31 PM) he was so UTR in S5, that's the only time I saw him play
Bill V: (8:46:09 PM) I know
Bill V: (8:46:12 PM) idk what happened
Bill V: (8:46:19 PM) he was really a good player in S2
Bill V: (8:46:22 PM) oh well
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:46:34 PM) Well I hear he was super wrapped up in another game during that season
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:46:42 PM) so I dont doubt he is a killer player!
Bill V: (8:47:01 PM) How are you feeling about a 3rd Tribal Council?
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:47:37 PM) lol ugh
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:47:46 PM) It'll be interesting
Bill V: (8:48:03 PM) Not another unanimous vote? haha
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:48:20 PM) I mean it very well could be
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:48:25 PM) I'll have to see where everyone is at
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:49:42 PM) There is a curious information flow in this game, and I don't feel like everyone has been completely genuine with me because I've never been an option to vote yet
Bill V: (8:50:21 PM) you kinda have the problem we're having
Bill V: (8:50:35 PM) can't be sure of trust because its never truly been tested
Bill V: (8:50:42 PM) omg your and luca's score is crazy
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:51:00 PM) Yeah, I mean if you just posted fives
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:51:08 PM) you could go longer
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:51:20 PM) and it was like posting 10 three times every minute for two hours basically
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:51:33 PM) instead of 8 and 6 or 7 for two hours or 6 for three etc
Bill V: (8:52:11 PM) yeah, i think we did 8s for an hour then 6s for an hour, with a 7 and a 5 to get the bonus
Bill V: (8:52:16 PM) and of coures the 9s
Bill V: (8:52:43 PM) we had a lot of board issues tho, cuz chase and I were trying to post at the same time, it broke the board
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (8:52:44 PM) yeah the bonus was very small though compared to the score per minute, we were going to do that at first
Bill V: (9:05:33 PM) mmhm
Bill V: (9:05:48 PM) ok well, good luck with your tribal I'm going out so i'll ttyl
[Sami] Ellen GVSE: (9:05:54 PM) later! have fun be safe!
Bill V: (9:06:08 PM) thanks!
Bill V: (9:06:10 PM) later

[henry]

Bill V: (3:56:37 PM) anything new or interesting going on in the game?
Chase Ingmen: (4:00:50 PM) Um kinda. lol
Chase Ingmen: (4:01:07 PM) The other tribes sound ridiculous
Bill V: (4:01:22 PM) oh ya? gimme the 4-1-1, the hot gossip
Bill V: (4:01:23 PM) lol
Chase Ingmen: (4:01:28 PM) I guess Gloria has been spreading a lot of shit
Chase Ingmen: (4:01:36 PM) So she is getting voted out
Chase Ingmen: (4:01:53 PM) She told everyone about Mark's idol
Chase Ingmen: (4:02:39 PM) And I guess Ellen has the other idol
Bill V: (4:05:30 PM) well, if Gloria leaves I'll be pleased
Chase Ingmen: (4:05:42 PM) Me too.
Bill V: (4:06:26 PM) A) makes that team weaker if we stay in these tribes B) She's a player C) Season 5 has a lot of ppl in the game and they're connected
Chase Ingmen: (4:07:22 PM) Agreed
Chase Ingmen: (4:07:31 PM) I'm really fine with her going
Chase Ingmen: (4:07:48 PM) I have no idea who is going on Eduro though
Chase Ingmen: (4:07:54 PM) I've heard all 4 names come up...
Chase Ingmen: (4:08:04 PM) Have you heard anything?
Bill V: (4:08:42 PM) No
Bill V: (4:08:49 PM) i've been drunk instead
Bill V: (4:08:50 PM) lol
Bill V: (4:08:56 PM) i tried talking to Ellen about it
Bill V: (4:09:03 PM) but she deferred all questions
Chase Ingmen: (4:10:27 PM) Ellen isn't talking to anyone...
Chase Ingmen: (4:11:27 PM) We talked quite a bit pregame and now we don't talk at all
Bill V: (4:14:21 PM) She's either feeling the pressure of multiple relationships
Bill V: (4:14:28 PM) or is just working hard within-tribe
Chase Ingmen: (4:15:42 PM) I dunno
Chase Ingmen: (4:15:54 PM) I don't trust her at all though :/
Bill V: (4:18:04 PM) well, i'm sure all those immunity wins r making her a threat
Chase Ingmen: (4:21:40 PM) lmao
Chase Ingmen: (4:21:56 PM) I'm sure she is feeling it
Chase Ingmen: (4:22:07 PM) But it sounds like her social game is struggling
Chase Ingmen: (4:22:11 PM) Which is surprising
Bill V: (4:23:02 PM) eh, i'll believe that when i actually see her get voted out
Chase Ingmen: (4:27:10 PM) ugh
Chase Ingmen: (4:28:00 PM) I'm hoping they take Luca out this round
Bill V: (4:29:44 PM) Well, Perry was voted out
Bill V: (4:29:50 PM) so maybe Luca will follow
Bill V: (4:30:08 PM) I was gonna guess Hannah
Chase Ingmen: (4:32:38 PM) I've heard a few different options over there
Chase Ingmen: (4:32:51 PM) I've heard Selena, Hannah, or Luca
Chase Ingmen: (4:33:08 PM) Depending on who teams up

[henry]

Mark GVSE: (4:37:45 PM) Hey Henry
Bill V: (4:38:33 PM) Hey Mark
Bill V: (4:38:35 PM) hows it goin?
Mark GVSE: (4:40:42 PM) I'm good man how are you?
Bill V: (4:41:10 PM) just relaxing today
Bill V: (4:41:15 PM) kinda partied too hard last night
Bill V: (4:41:16 PM) lol
Mark GVSE: (4:42:02 PM) Lol I did not party hard last night
Mark GVSE: (4:42:31 PM) So I'm pretty sure you know who I am and may be weirded out by me messaging you look
Bill V: (4:42:36 PM) why not?
Mark GVSE: (4:42:39 PM) *lol
Bill V: (4:42:53 PM) Oh yea!
Bill V: (4:43:02 PM) Sorry I forgot, but I remember Thaigo told me
Bill V: (4:43:05 PM) Kyle, right?
Mark GVSE: (4:43:12 PM) Yeah
Bill V: (4:43:24 PM) cool, yeah I was too lazy in season 2 to make an alias s/n
Bill V: (4:43:25 PM) lol
Bill V: (4:43:40 PM) I didn't know anyone in that season anyway
Mark GVSE: (4:44:06 PM) Lol I never wanted to be outed but whatever haha
Mark GVSE: (4:44:33 PM) Well I'm messaging you because we may have some common interests in this game
Mark GVSE: (4:44:42 PM) And not just offensive
Bill V: (4:45:05 PM) mhm, well, about what, do u think?
Bill V: (4:45:15 PM) ^ lotta commas in that sentence
Mark GVSE: (4:45:40 PM) Lol excuse my slowness.im on my phone
Mark GVSE: (4:45:56 PM) I'm learning a lot about alliance lines through this vote
Mark GVSE: (4:46:37 PM) And part of it targets aj/cassie
Bill V: (4:48:03 PM) alright, well, you'll have to start at the basics with me. i openly admit I'm painfully ignorant to the complex alliances in this game due to the fact that I hated everyone in my season + they keep getting voted out
Mark GVSE: (4:50:11 PM) Well I was too until just a few minutes ago. And it all makes sense
Mark GVSE: (4:50:26 PM) We all know Ellen is the queen of this series
Mark GVSE: (4:50:40 PM) And apparently has a lot of bitches in line
Mark GVSE: (4:50:57 PM) Being Luca, Dom, selena, ben
Bill V: (4:50:59 PM) well yes, that much i do know, haha
Bill V: (4:51:31 PM) and Thiago, which I"m sure you know, but he's commented that Ellen's been distant to him
Mark GVSE: (4:51:48 PM) Well I think they are affecting alot of outcomes
Mark GVSE: (4:52:38 PM) Yeah peope have been lumping us together again mapq.st/15tWvl6
Mark GVSE: (4:52:43 PM) Wth
Mark GVSE: (4:52:53 PM) I don't know why it sent that lol
Bill V: (4:53:11 PM) lol weird
Bill V: (4:53:19 PM) but i already knew u were in TX
Bill V: (4:53:21 PM) lol
Mark GVSE: (4:55:32 PM) Well that's my neighbor hood...come swimming! Lol
Mark GVSE: (4:56:04 PM) Anyways...there are bigger issues I believe than whether or not Thiago and I are together
Bill V: (4:56:27 PM) mmhm
Mark GVSE: (4:56:32 PM) Sorry for so much info without pleasantries...I promise I'm not a game boy
Mark GVSE: (4:56:37 PM) *bot
Bill V: (4:56:53 PM) idc about you and thiago, everyone has ppl they're close to in this game, that's the nature of all stars
Mark GVSE: (4:57:02 PM) Exactly
Bill V: (4:57:10 PM) and no worries
Mark GVSE: (4:57:15 PM) And I keep hearing it over and over
Mark GVSE: (4:57:47 PM) Anyway, I'd just like to keep an open line of communication with you
Mark GVSE: (4:58:17 PM) Sorry I'm so forward at the moment. I'm playing survivor when my wife doesn't want me to
Bill V: (4:58:28 PM) lmao shhhh, i won't tell
Bill V: (4:58:37 PM) I heard u got in trouble last season
Bill V: (4:58:39 PM) haha
Mark GVSE: (4:59:17 PM) Lol yes...I did a challenge when I was supposed to be taking her out to eat
Bill V: (4:59:18 PM) so how was this relating back to Cassie/AJ?
Bill V: (4:59:31 PM) ruh ro, in the dog house, haha
Bill V: (4:59:56 PM) that is one of the perks of dating gee, he understands when i need to do something for a game, lol
Mark GVSE: (4:59:58 PM) Apparently that alliance I mentioned thinks there's an Aj/cassie group
Bill V: (5:00:21 PM) I guess I don't know how that group differs from the Ellen group
Bill V: (5:00:37 PM) unless things went south between Ellen and Cassie
Mark GVSE: (5:01:22 PM) I didn't know groups were merged haha
Bill V: (5:02:17 PM) well i mean Ellen was in the F3 with Cassie and Colleen
Mark GVSE: (5:03:02 PM) Oh well...I should probably just be quiet haha
Bill V: (5:03:21 PM) haha, no i mean i might be wrong
Bill V: (5:03:26 PM) I don't know
Mark GVSE: (5:03:46 PM) Lol have I ever said how much I hate all stars games?
Bill V: (5:04:09 PM) Eh, if you just come in with low expectations you usually aren't disappointed that way
Mark GVSE: (5:04:15 PM) Probably not we've never really properly met
Bill V: (5:04:35 PM) Yeah, not really, just been around the same community
Bill V: (5:04:44 PM) I mean, I feel like I had known of you before offensive
Bill V: (5:04:58 PM) idk if that was because we played together or not, i'm not sure
Mark GVSE: (5:05:18 PM) We were in a game together that never finished
Mark GVSE: (5:05:38 PM) But I'd known of you before because of a former roomie
Bill V: (5:05:59 PM) was it mike maybe?
Bill V: (5:06:04 PM) or something liek that
Mark GVSE: (5:06:05 PM) Steve
Mark GVSE: (5:06:08 PM) Kilogato
Bill V: (5:06:14 PM) hmm ok
Bill V: (5:07:05 PM) at least with GVSE i really don't care about this all stars because I'm not personally too close with the ppl on the cast
Mark GVSE: (5:07:15 PM) But anyways, I probably picked the wrong time to meet you because I need to go. But I'm always around
Mark GVSE: (5:07:26 PM) Yeah I keep telling myself I don't either
Bill V: (5:07:33 PM) mmkay, i am too but maybe not so much this weekend
Mark GVSE: (5:07:37 PM) But I'm too competitive not to
Bill V: (5:08:14 PM) oh, i mean i'm gonna try to do well, but the relationships aren't as personal to me as opposed to, like offensive
Mark GVSE: (5:08:15 PM) I talk to you soon
Bill V: (5:08:16 PM) but anyway
Bill V: (5:08:18 PM) i'll ttyl
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