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Post by colleen on Aug 3, 2013 4:22:23 GMT -5
Alright so congratulations AJ, Knox & Thiago for making it to the final 3. Honestly good job to you three. I am not bitter towards you guys but more so at the game itself but whatever, it's over and done with. My vote will be based on how you answer/explain yourself. AJI honestly don't see myself voting for you as I don't respect your game. I guess that's all I have to say... nice social game though. Feel free to campaign for my vote because never say never. KnoxIt would be hard for me to vote for you as we barely communicated. Yes communication works both ways but I honestly did not wanna talk to you and we were never on the same tribe anyway. I do have to say it is nice that you went out of your way tho to initiate conversations with me. The reasons why I did not want to talk to you is because a] you made comments about me to Dominic and b] I thought you were an ass for the way you treated Selena. It really bugged me when I was told that you said I was cheap because I always play games with Ben (which is false) and that Ben carried me in this game when at the time those comments were made, it was the first time we were on the same tribe. Ben did not help me survive the other tribes tyvm. Please explain your comments. I really don't see myself as cheap considering others had more friends and even text each other. Anyway you definitely changed from last season so nice one and I did think you were cool from our {not so many} convos. ThiagoYou called me dishonest in your RTF thingie which has me scratching my head and no, I don't have lice Please explain how I was dishonest? If it's what I think it's about (our convo regarding Ellen) then you obvi have it wrong or something. I actually did wanna work with you and the day before Ellen asked me about our convo, I asked Luca if you were trustworthy. I don't wanna go into further details in case it's something completely different and if it is, then I'll still be scratching my head. I do think out of the three you have played the best game and it's amazing for a previous winner to make it to the end again. Kudos to you. I know those questions weren't really based on your games but I'm curious as to why you guys made those comments and it will help me with my vote. Feel free to sell your game aswell tho. Good luck peeps
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Post by knox on Aug 3, 2013 4:42:09 GMT -5
Knox
It would be hard for me to vote for you as we barely communicated. Yes communication works both ways but I honestly did not wanna talk to you and we were never on the same tribe anyway. I do have to say it is nice that you went out of your way tho to initiate conversations with me. The reasons why I did not want to talk to you is because a] you made comments about me to Dominic and b] I thought you were an ass for the way you treated Selena. It really bugged me when I was told that you said I was cheap because I always play games with Ben (which is false) and that Ben carried me in this game when at the time those comments were made, it was the first time we were on the same tribe. Ben did not help me survive the other tribes tyvm. Please explain your comments. I really don't see myself as cheap considering others had more friends and even text each other. Anyway you definitely changed from last season so nice one and I did think you were cool from our {not so many} convos. Hi Colleen, I was about to go to bed, but I think this is easy enough to answer before. I don't recall saying that Ben had carried you in this game, I might have said others had, but that is because a lot of people had told me before that that was just how you played and like you said we never had conversations so I knew nothing about you besides what other people said. I do agree I was an ass for the way I treated Selena, it was awful, uncalled for and absolutely disgusting behavior which I wish I not only had never displayed but which I could take back. As for cheap... I don't recall using that word either, then again I have been having a lot of trouble with my memory during this FTC apparently so I wouldn't be surprised if I said it. Like I told Ben, when I get mad and I'm ranting I say a lot of stuff that is just petty and unnecessary. I am not exactly sure why I said that but I feel like it must have came when I was being a dick-wad and just bitching. Like I said, I honestly did not have much of a relationship with you and so I could only form my opinion about you from what other people said. They said you and Ben were super tight and you guys always played together, I had nothing to show me that was not the case and we didn't talk so I couldn't prove it wrong. So, I believed it and then like an idiot I repeated it. But like you know I did try, I IM'd you a couple of times, and you only responded once. And I really truly enjoyed that conversation, it was definitively one of my favorites since normally when I mention sports people say "ew" and then talk about something else. So it was a nice change. I am sorry our communication wasn't more though. I hope that answers, if not let me know and I will reply tomorrow [once I'm rested]. Thanks again Colleen!
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Post by colleen on Aug 3, 2013 6:35:49 GMT -5
Knox
It would be hard for me to vote for you as we barely communicated. Yes communication works both ways but I honestly did not wanna talk to you and we were never on the same tribe anyway. I do have to say it is nice that you went out of your way tho to initiate conversations with me. The reasons why I did not want to talk to you is because a] you made comments about me to Dominic and b] I thought you were an ass for the way you treated Selena. It really bugged me when I was told that you said I was cheap because I always play games with Ben (which is false) and that Ben carried me in this game when at the time those comments were made, it was the first time we were on the same tribe. Ben did not help me survive the other tribes tyvm. Please explain your comments. I really don't see myself as cheap considering others had more friends and even text each other. Anyway you definitely changed from last season so nice one and I did think you were cool from our {not so many} convos. Hi Colleen, I was about to go to bed, but I think this is easy enough to answer before. I don't recall saying that Ben had carried you in this game, I might have said others had, but that is because a lot of people had told me before that that was just how you played and like you said we never had conversations so I knew nothing about you besides what other people said. I do agree I was an ass for the way I treated Selena, it was awful, uncalled for and absolutely disgusting behavior which I wish I not only had never displayed but which I could take back. As for cheap... I don't recall using that word either, then again I have been having a lot of trouble with my memory during this FTC apparently so I wouldn't be surprised if I said it. Like I told Ben, when I get mad and I'm ranting I say a lot of stuff that is just petty and unnecessary. I am not exactly sure why I said that but I feel like it must have came when I was being a dick-wad and just bitching. Like I said, I honestly did not have much of a relationship with you and so I could only form my opinion about you from what other people said. They said you and Ben were super tight and you guys always played together, I had nothing to show me that was not the case and we didn't talk so I couldn't prove it wrong. So, I believed it and then like an idiot I repeated it. But like you know I did try, I IM'd you a couple of times, and you only responded once. And I really truly enjoyed that conversation, it was definitively one of my favorites since normally when I mention sports people say "ew" and then talk about something else. So it was a nice change. I am sorry our communication wasn't more though. I hope that answers, if not let me know and I will reply tomorrow [once I'm rested]. Thanks again Colleen! Thanks Knox for your answer. Look I am tight with Ben... he is prob my closest online org friend and I'm not denying that. I'm denying that we play every game together because that is not true. Of course if we both make all stars we're naturally gonna work together because we mesh and generally like the same people. I just don't appreciate that comments are made about me regarding Ben that makes me look crap and the fact that you were saying them when we've never talked. But thank you for clearing it up. To those that made those comments about me, here's my middle finger, sit on it and rotate kthx.
I did like our conversation and we prob would have had more convos but by the time we started talking, it didn't really matter since the sides but I do appreciate the effort you made. Btw do you remember bbzone 8? Haha
I have a game question if you don't mind me asking... if you were in the minority at the merge, what would have been your strategy?
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Post by aj on Aug 3, 2013 11:49:52 GMT -5
Hey Colleen,
If you don't respect my game, I don't think that there's anything I could say that would magically change that for you lol. Regardless, I think you're a great person. Good luck with your decision!
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Post by knox on Aug 3, 2013 16:37:52 GMT -5
I have a game question if you don't mind me asking... if you were in the minority at the merge, what would have been your strategy? I don't at all! I am actually glad you asked this because I did have a plan all along, and I think it will show people that I had a strategic mind too. My plan was actually really simple as it was in the baby stages, seeing how the tie worked in my favor I never needed to implement it. My plan was to be extremely social with you guys and to appear very open to options, so that you guys would see me as an asset. Seeing how I am not the best at challenges I would use that as a selling point, as well as the fact most of the cast underestimated my smarts so I would have played dumb. The final step of my plan was to approach Dominic or Ellen and make a deal with whoever I decided. The deal was simple: take me to the final 5 and you have my vote in the jury. I picked Dom or Ellen because out of your alliance I felt they were the ones that wanted to win more "badly" than the other three of you. I also feel they would be more than thrilled to have a vote guaranteed in the end, and to know that they could have a "slave" up until to that point to do whatever they wanted. Likewise, they would be able to recognize how horrible I was at challenges and they would not see me as a threat to go into an immunity run. I had always been late for idols up at that point so I wasn't viewed as someone who could have one either. This all combined made it easy to take me out at any point if required. Hope that helps Colleen! I also want to point out that I completely understand what you mean, it's the same with me and some friends [like Gloria] people just assume you are gonna work with them and then you don't have much choice after that. Anyways, thank you!
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Post by thiago on Aug 3, 2013 19:57:20 GMT -5
Hey Colleen, thanks for your kind words. The screencap I'm referring to is this one that Ellen sent to me: My RTF was really an opportunity to show "problems" I had with jurors to encourage AJ/Knox/Cassie to think that I would have no shot at receiving many if any jury votes. I think that no one really knew where you stood on any of us so I wanted to showcase a "moment" I had brought up before so that it would seem like me and you had a bad relationship and would never vote for me. At the time Ellen showed me the screencap I wasn't happy because it pulled Ellen away from me, someone I wanted to work with. I do remember making that comment to you and it was after a previous conversation we had where you had shocked me by saying that you felt Ellen had a lot of friends (and I thought you and Ellen were very tight from S3), so I thought that maybe it was something I should say so you'd think we were on the same page. I was trying to play you. Admittedly, at the time, I would have gone back to Ellen immediately if you told me you wanted to take her out, because I really wanted to play with Ellen, so it was super smart of you to send Ellen the screencap because it totally killed any opportunity for me and her to fully work together as it really put a wedge in her trust in me, so well done with that move. You played me and it resulted in me keeping my eyes on you for the rest of the game. This played a huge role in me moving the vote off of Ben and onto you the round you left because I knew you were very capable of silently playing like Danni and causing a massive upset without needing immunity and winning this game. No one in my group had any interest in taking you out and that was a huge red flag for me. So to answer your question, no I'm not upset about what happened at all, quite the opposite actually, because I respected your move as a player and was really impressed because I was trying to play you at that time and you sniped me before I had the chance! I did want to work with you, too, and it's a shame that the lines were drawn so early because I was such a Colleen fangirl pre-season and initially on Legatu but I grew to fear you after that move for sure, which resulted in me keeping my distance on a strategic level. Thanks for your question!
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Post by colleen on Aug 4, 2013 4:36:48 GMT -5
Hey Colleen, thanks for your kind words. The screencap I'm referring to is this one that Ellen sent to me: My RTF was really an opportunity to show "problems" I had with jurors to encourage AJ/Knox/Cassie to think that I would have no shot at receiving many if any jury votes. I think that no one really knew where you stood on any of us so I wanted to showcase a "moment" I had brought up before so that it would seem like me and you had a bad relationship and would never vote for me. At the time Ellen showed me the screencap I wasn't happy because it pulled Ellen away from me, someone I wanted to work with. I do remember making that comment to you and it was after a previous conversation we had where you had shocked me by saying that you felt Ellen had a lot of friends (and I thought you and Ellen were very tight from S3), so I thought that maybe it was something I should say so you'd think we were on the same page. I was trying to play you. Admittedly, at the time, I would have gone back to Ellen immediately if you told me you wanted to take her out, because I really wanted to play with Ellen, so it was super smart of you to send Ellen the screencap because it totally killed any opportunity for me and her to fully work together as it really put a wedge in her trust in me, so well done with that move. You played me and it resulted in me keeping my eyes on you for the rest of the game. This played a huge role in me moving the vote off of Ben and onto you the round you left because I knew you were very capable of silently playing like Danni and causing a massive upset without needing immunity and winning this game. No one in my group had any interest in taking you out and that was a huge red flag for me. So to answer your question, no I'm not upset about what happened at all, quite the opposite actually, because I respected your move as a player and was really impressed because I was trying to play you at that time and you sniped me before I had the chance! I did want to work with you, too, and it's a shame that the lines were drawn so early because I was such a Colleen fangirl pre-season and initially on Legatu but I grew to fear you after that move for sure, which resulted in me keeping my distance on a strategic level. Thanks for your question! Thanks Thiago (And Knox and AJ) I only sent that screencap because Ellen asked me about our convo, lol... I honestly was like wtf because I didn't think any of it so I was just surprised you told her about it. And I kinda felt you were trying to bait me and stuff. Anyway Good luck
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